Ryder71
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That's murky because he was injured. But I would suggest he was much better away from the puck than McCann is.
I hope McCann finds his groove early on, I'm just not so sure he will.
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I hope McCann finds his groove early on, I'm just not so sure he will.
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PRoblem with Staal is that he has been hurt a lot lately.
His production is pretty much what it always was: good/great defense, between 45-50 points.
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BlindWillyMcHurt
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I mean that's fair... I'm honestly not sure because I don't give a pale turd about the Canes.
I know it's super hard to tell but I've always felt Staal was massively overrated by Penguins fans, in particular. Fine enough player... some act like he was this irreplaceable linchpin. When the coach and fanbase started talking positively about moving him to center over Geno because like... faceoffs... I was done.
He played a super steady game for the team in their 09 run when they really needed someone to do that... so kudos there.
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Oh there's no doubt that Bonino is a better player than McCann is so far, I'm not disagreeing there. I just don't think the 3C was particularly instrumental in that Cup victory, same with Letang being out.
There's always ways around a suboptimal 3C, but the whole team's gotta buy in and be on the same page, which is the real question. Also, that line needs to be setup to cover for McCann a bit, which is sort of a problem with Hornqvist there, tbf, since I don't think he and McCann make the greatest of duos away from the puck.
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I think you're looking at this in broad terms. I'm singularly focused on McCann.
Does McCann have significant issues with maintaining a level of consistency and scoring goals? I believe he does. And without Simon and Bjugstad, there's no one who can even challenge. Maybe Teddy, but then you're really fumbling around in the bottom six. I just wish we had a couple options.
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Yeah I was definitely looking at things in the macro not micro.
In an immediate sense I have some concerns about McCann but if the top six is concocted and deployed correctly it won't be a big issue. There are more than enough steady-if-unspectacular players on the depth lines to hold things together, IMO. Like I said... someone or several someones from the bottom two lines always finds an extra gear. Uh... at least in NORMAL years.
In an immediate sense I have some concerns about McCann but if the top six is concocted and deployed correctly it won't be a big issue. There are more than enough steady-if-unspectacular players on the depth lines to hold things together, IMO. Like I said... someone or several someones from the bottom two lines always finds an extra gear. Uh... at least in NORMAL years.
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Zohorna could be an option next season, at least to force Teddy up to 3C. In some ways, I think Zohorna was brought over to see if he could become what they hoped Bjugstad could have been-- he's played C, he's big, he's a decent skater, and he knows how to play with talented line mates as well as pluggers.
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unbelievable...so Penslike...losing players while seating around....this is hilarious....wait till they get together
Ryder71
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But he's solid at puck possession and is a better playmaker. McCann is none of that. What does he really offer if he's not scoring?Simon isn't challenging anyone when it comes to scoring goals
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You knew that once they actually announced a playoffs, the first of an avalanche of injuries would begin.
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Ugh I forgot we traded him for an airplane mini bag of stale pretzels
Ryder71
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I'm hoping we see the best from McCann. He has a lot of good tools including a great shot and speed to burn. But I'm mildly surprised no one else (as of yet) is concerned with his disappearing act prior to the shut down that lasted weeks.
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Yeah Bjugstad wasn't in the long term plans and I only wanted him available in the playoffs for center depth, especially since hes a RHS faceoff man. Ultimately losing him but gaining Jake is a deal I take all day so whatever. This might make the last year of his deal untradeable in the offseason though.
Per CapFriendly, to buy him out would cost 600k against the cap next year and 1.75m the year after. Not ideal but not a killer either.
You could also see about retaining 50% and sending him to a team with a sweetener. 2.05m cap hit for year 1 but nothing year 2.
Edit: I got confused about when the expansion draft was happening. Nevermind on that idea.
Per CapFriendly, to buy him out would cost 600k against the cap next year and 1.75m the year after. Not ideal but not a killer either.
You could also see about retaining 50% and sending him to a team with a sweetener. 2.05m cap hit for year 1 but nothing year 2.
Edit: I got confused about when the expansion draft was happening. Nevermind on that idea.
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Gurglesons
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Yes, all 7 points really made or broke the post-season.
Shouldn't you be flaming people about which goalie we're going to start right now?
ColePens
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I know it's off topic and I do think it is a non-tangible item that helps the team win.. but Bones was SOOO good at blocking shots, standing in shooting lanes, taking up valuable space, moving, etc. And it's hard because you cannot keep a stat on standing in a shooting lane. The guy was like a mini-goalie. And i'm not overvaluing shot blocking... but Sheahan and Bjugs were BRUTAL at taking the lane. BRUTAL. Bones was so consistent at forcing the play to an area that didn't matter.
And i'm not overvaluing shot blocking... but Sheahan and Bjugs were BRUTAL at taking the lane. BRUTAL. Bones was so consistent at forcing the play to an area that didn't matter.
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JordanStaal#1Fan
My previous handle was "JordanStaal#1Fan", but I am obviously biased.
To me, Staal was the perfect 3rd line center for this team. Great defensively, productive even when playing limited PP minutes. Enough talent to step up in the lineup when necessary. At the end of the day, he was more of a luxury though and that's why we had to move on when the cost became too high.
Gurglesons
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Yes, all 7 points really made or broke the post-season.
Shouldn't you be flaming people about which goalie we're going to start right now?
He was the 5th most used forward and played huge defensive minutes for the team.
He was essential to our system that year in the playoffs just like Ron Hainsey and we probably beat Washington the next year if we signed him.
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ColePens
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Live footage from Bjugstad's surgery:
Congo? This board references Congo more than anyone. Or is this something else?
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