NHL's projections of the NBC deal

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  1. hockeytown9321

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    http://www.nypost.com/sports/43280.htm

    Nice job, Gary. Less than a quarter million per team.

    Its also nice to see that instead of spending money to promote the game, they've spent that money trying to break the union.
     
  2. mytor4*

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    hehe all that means is a lot less money for the greedy players. hope they still hold out for more because at this rate they will have to pay the nhl to play. ty bob.
     
  3. shakes

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    So which owner will you be cheering for when the season resumes?
     
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    I don't understand the ramblings in the article about an NHL channel. The article says it doesn't exist, but it does... :confused:

    They have never heard about NHL network or NHL Center Ice?
     
  5. mooseOAK*

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    The players keep insisting that they are the product, well that is what the product is worth in the US TV market. Stop holding out for money that you don't really deserve.
     
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    It's Larry Brooks folks-- an opportunistic columnist (not a fact based reporter) who has the luxury to sit at a keyboard and emphasize some points over others, gloss over other facets he deems unworthy, and twist and turn other facts into his own "beautifully" woven tapestry...
     
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  7. No, no, no, no no! You just don't understand the players. They believe they are the product, until you want to start talking about its' lagging popularity and its inability to sell. Then the product becomes the league and all the problems are the league's fault. This is why I am so pro-owner. The players want everything their way and refuse to accept any responsibility, any accountability, and any risk. They want to make the lion's share of all money, yet they do nothing except play the game. If they would take a more active role in the game itself, instead of becoming a money pit, I would be more sympathetic to their cause. But when they refuse to accept any responsibility, any accountability, or any risk associated with the business of the game, well they are nothing but employees and deserve to be treated as such. The players will get what they deserve. A paycheck in line with what other leagues are willing to play.
     
  8. Is that all it means?? wow..I would think it means less money for the owners as well..but I don't have my owner goggles on. :shakehead
     
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    Only difference is the owners dont need money... the players do.

    Face it, NHL teams are a luxury to have for any owner, a leisure to call their own. Name an owner who sees the NHL has his BIGGEST cash crop.

    You'll also see an owner who's out of business
     
  10. I have been saying that forever, that's why I dont buy the "we are losing money" crap. Well..maybe I do beleive it but it's their fault IMO
    If you buy a NHL team to make money..whats the saying about a fool and his money?
    However, there are teams (owned by shareholders) that this doesnt apply.
    Anyway,I was being semi sarcastic..but some of the players just don't need money either.
     
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    Then a cap isn't necessary is it?
     
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    and the league as well judging by the first two Paragraphs ..

    March 27, 2005 -- "There's nothing that we do that I would want to compare to the NHL." — NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue, this past Monday, as quoted by USA Today

    LET that be the epitaph for Gary Bettman's reign as commissioner of the Never Hockey League. Let that withering condemnation — offered not by a union man, not by a writer, but by the leader of the most successful pro sports league in history — stand for all time as the indelible carving on the NHL's headstone.



    So Bettman wants to be like the NFL ... and the NFL wants to have nothing to do with the NHL in comparison ..
     
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    except of course, that quote was hacked up, as it was in relation to NFL and NFLPA negotiations, and nothing more.

    but hey, selective cutting and pasting is Brooks forte.
     
  14. Quoting Larry Brooks???

    :lol :lol :lol
     
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    How does Brooks keep his journalism license when almost everything he writes is incorrect?
     
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    See what I put in RED.

    What a ridiculous statement that is !

    Not only the PLAYERS need to reduce their salaries, need to play their hearts out to play 82 games in 170 days & NOW THEY NEED TO MARKET THIS LEAGUE ?

    Can someone tell me what the owners & his staff SHOULD DO in the NHL ?

    Being a pro-owner is fine but ACCEPTING TO DEFEND EVERYTHING & ACCUSE THE PLAYERS FOR EVERYTHING is just non-sense
     
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    who else is gonna market the league?
    when the NHL comes back, the fans are gonna need some coaxing to watch this game...who better then the players?

    they claim they're the "product"...well, then market the product!
     
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    You don't seem to understand that these are athletes, not marketing experts, not some sellers from The Brick.

    You have a lot of videotapes that can market hockey but their NHL marketing offices is A DISASTER. Instead of marketing great plays or great goals, they prefered to market BIG HITS & FIGHTS.

    So now for the last 10 years they did a bad job & it's the players fault ? PLEASE ! Be serious people
     
  19. FanSince2014

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    This is a correct assessment.

    Nice try Messenger.
     
  20. mooseOAK*

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    So what you are saying is that the league is far more important to the success of the NHL than the players. Which is exactly our point.

    And, league revenues have grown substantially over the last 10 years so the NHL must have been doing something right.
     
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    And isn't this part of the reason they have a union and hire specialists to help them understand the business?

    There's no question the NHL needs to market the game a hell of a lot better than they have been doing. But priority one is to make sure that what they're selling is going to survive. How do you market something that's on the verge of imploding?
     
  22. This is part of the problem IMO. The NHL tries to market the game, while any work the NHLPA does is focused on the short-term and is focused strictly on the players. Different goals to attain different things. A common marketing goal is the first thing that both sides needs to find and come to an agreement on. Without an agreement on where the game needs to go and how you get it there nothing is ever going to work. This is why I believe a partnership is a requirement, and for the players tobcome partners must assume some risk. Hence the linkage proposal which I happen to think is a win-win for all parties.
     
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    How is what he writes incorrect?? I don't understand how you can argue with those numbers...it's solid numbers with proof unlike the...cough cough levitt "report." He is absolutly correct, the $300M war-chest is taking up valuable money. More proof the season was obviously intended to be completely cancelled. They had absolutly no intentions of playing, yet you all still put full blame on the PA.
     
  24. Blueshirts4me

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    You my friend have to read up on this stuff. The NHL Network is own by TSN (which is partially owned by ESPN). Unlike NFL Network and NBATV, which is owned by the league themselves.

    NHL Center Ice brings in next to nothing. They need to offer streamed games on the net, then people will watch.
     
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    This is just the problem, they hold the league accountable for the product, but yet call themselves the product??? The PA and the league havwe never worked together, they have always been on opposite sides, never realizing that they need each other...they are all morons, lead by Gary and Knob... During Gary and Knob's tenure, the salaries have skyrocketed and the play has gotten worse :shakehead they both should be replaced in their respective positions and you would have a deal in 2 weeks.
     
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