NHL & NHLPA talk about bringing an international theme to next years All Star Game

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  1. LeafsNation75

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    I wonder if this would be like when they use to have North America vs The World.

     
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    Hmm is this going to be one of those "We're not gonna do Olympics but..." things
     
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    Realgud Generational locker room presence

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    3 on 3 elite international women :sarcasm:
     
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    Oh, come on already. This is farcical.

    East vs. West.

    Fans vote for starting lineup (3 forwards, 2 d, and 1 goalie). Zero tolerance for troll votes and options are pre-selected by the league. Cannot have more than 1 player from any team voted in. Remainder of teams selected by hockey writers association.

    Mandatory participation or suspended 3 regular season games. If player is legitimately injured, they must have missed 3 full games prior to all-star game.

    Done and done. Enough of the stupid gimmicks. It’s becoming a clown show.
     
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    Great! Now we won’t need the Olympics!
     
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    Just bring back the East vs West 5on5 format, its been a decade. The quality of players is higher too for some reason




    Or do the all star draft which is cool too.
     
  7. A1LeafNation

    A1LeafNation Our time! Our time!

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    They should have a two week Olympic tournament without the Olympics and invite other countries and put on prime time all through the tournament.


    Will they get sued is the question?
     
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    Pucker Factor 10 Serious guy who doesn't take things too seriously

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    Personally, I'd like to see them go back to a more xenophobic format with only Americans and Canadians.
     
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    Anglesmith Setting up the play?

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    You clearly aren't fully grasping the nature of the issue if you think it's the gimmicks that are causing it to be farcical. The players are determined to act as apathetically towards the ASG as they can. Somewhere within the last little while, it went from a fun event where players were happy to show off without pressure to an event where if a player puts any effort in, they alienate themselves. The pressure by the players on the players to show off how little they care reached such a point that the product on the ice became unwatchable. So now the league is doing whatever they can to combat that and inject some form of motivation.

    You seem to be essentially calling for a return to what the ASG used to be, but the players aren't what they used to be (at least, their collective attitude isn't), so that's never going to happen. Moving to 3-on-3 was a great idea, because the things that make a 5-on-5 game seem like a mockery (not backchecking, not really trying on defence, trying to get cute and playing with no physicality) actually don't look that out of place at 3-on-3.
     
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    Chinese, Jamaican, Italian and Britain All-Star teams in a four team mini-tournament.
     
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    Game is going to be sponsored by the Olive Garden.
     
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    Do whatever, I still won't watch.

    I was excited as a kid for these games, but as I got older I realized how pointless they were. Literally no excitement in these games at all.
     
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    What if they have only missed two? Or get injured in the last game before the ASG? How do you plan when to get injured?
     
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    :clap:
     
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    There's a lot of thing they could do to make it interesting and make the players put in effort.

    For instance Just make it so the winning division doesn't have to deal with escrow.
     
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    Man, I really loved all of the back-checking and physicality of those 80s all-star games. LOL.
     
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    If they’ve already missed 2 games, then they’re suspended for 1 game following the ASG. If they’re injured the last game before the ASG, then they serve a full 3 game suspension.
     
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    So players get suspended for being injured? I love it, I’ll run it by the nhlpa right now.
     
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    They get suspended for skipping the ASG, which is the current rule. Just ups the suspension from 1 game to 3 games.
     
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    This is not the current rule as they don’t get suspended if they are injured.
     
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    You are my mistaken. Auston Matthews would have been suspended 1 game had he not attended, despite being injured.
     
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    This just means they’re spending their full marketing budget on Shakira and Pit Bull Instead of Nickelback and BNL.
     
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    A wonderful straw-man, but not really of any merit in terms of actual discussion. All-Star Games, not being regular season games with any stakes, have obviously never drawn players' best efforts. That was not the difference I was pointing out. I was pointing out the difference between players playing without the pressures of a normal game and enjoying it vs. players appearing to play with significant pressure to not try.

    Before the shift to 3-on-3, you'd see a defensive pair just literally glide backwards like statues to allow the attacker to skate by and put on some kind of move. It's an absolute mockery of the sport, and for all the offence it leads to, it is entirely devoid of entertainment value:



    Fast-forward to the game footage here and honestly tell me you can't spot the difference:



    You can tell in this 1984 game footage that no one is going into battles full-force. But they are going into battles. They aren't comically avoiding them.

    What all fans hope the ASG is is just like a game of shinny on an ODR somewhere. Everyone is there to just have fun, but that doesn't mean people go out there and compete to see who can demonstrate the most apathy. When you play shinny, or even rec league, actually trying (not to the point of creating dangerous situations, of course) actually makes it more fun. The players have moved away from this (which is out of the league's control) and the league has been trying to keep the game relevant in light of this shift. It's a tough ask.
     
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    Always hold it in a sunny vacation location. Have players compete in other stuff too. They'll like golf. Maybe beach volleyball, beer pong, etc. Then near the end of it when they are as tanked as possible, put them on the ice for the 3-on-3.

    Added incentive: you are only eligible to return for the party next year if you are on the winning team.
     
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    Artemi Panarin is also injured and not playing, however unlike Matthews he didn't show up in St. Louis and he's not getting suspended.
     

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