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BLONG7 said:If the PA had a different leader, this would have been done last year...Bob tested the resolve of the owners and league, and lost his member...
Ouch.
BLONG7 said:If the PA had a different leader, this would have been done last year...Bob tested the resolve of the owners and league, and lost his member...
19nazzy said:Exactly.
First you people were crying about how they were never meeting. And now they're meeting 4 times a week and you're complaining more.
Just give them some time. We've been waiting 9+ months. What's another week or so?
19nazzy said:Exactly.
First you people were crying about how they were never meeting. And now they're meeting 4 times a week and you're complaining more.
Just give them some time. We've been waiting 9+ months. What's another week or so?
If we get to July/Mid-July with no deal, the I'd start being worried. But lets wait shall we?flambers said:You are assuming it will be done in a week or so. Thats my problem. Its mid June and the weeks will go by quickly next thing you know its July and still no CBA.
I have no confidence in either the NHL or NHLPA.
RangerBoy said:NHL Draft scheduled for August 6-tenatively
The NHL is apparently exploring the feasibility of staging a scaled down version of the draft in Ottawa, which was supposed to play host to the event on June 23. But the draft could also end up in the ballroom of a New York City hotel. Wherever it's held, it's expected only the top-end prospects will be in attendance and that NHL clubs will make their selections from their own cities by phone or internet.
Everything is still very much up in the air, though steps are being taken to start planning this event and others
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=128189
go kim johnsson said:My friend said this to me: "dude what way to get the nhl more good publicity then to have sidney crosby being drafted live on tv"
It's great to know that in the new era of the NHL, that the marketing team is already making mistakes
hossa-the-future said:if at the end of next week and i still hear "2 more weeks" then i'll start getting REALLY angry, as long as they are done by or on canada day then im alright with that.
If they announce it on canada day im gonna get soooooo loaded.
ill bring a 24 of cans and a hockey stick downtown then start a drunken game with my friends using the crushed cans.
(wouldnt wanna be nets)
hossa-the-future said:if at the end of next week and i still hear "2 more weeks" then i'll start getting REALLY angry, as long as they are done by or on canada day then im alright with that.
If they announce it on canada day im gonna get soooooo loaded.
ill bring a 24 of cans and a hockey stick downtown then start a drunken game with my friends using the crushed cans.
(wouldnt wanna be nets)
go kim johnsson said:My friend said this to me: "dude what way to get the nhl more good publicity then to have sidney crosby being drafted live on tv"
It's great to know that in the new era of the NHL, that the marketing team is already making mistakes
neilm said:Goodenow got a horrible result but in reality I can't say he played his hand poorly.
No league had ever cancelled a season. Lots of deals had gotten done at deadlines.
He did what anyone rational negotiator would have done. He played chicken and the resulting crash is where we are today.
How would you all have played his hand? Cry uncle last August and concede every point then and there? How would you have negotiated from day one?
The only time I'd question his strategy was after the rollback proposal when the NHL refused to even negotiate off this (sports anyway) unprecedented offer, he had to know the jig was up....
He had a crap hand period. The NHL was never interested in the good of the game or the fans (ironic that the majority here supoort them)....they were only interested in breaking the union and guaranteed profits.
Given this foe, how would you have negotiated?
A healthy game + happy fans = lots of money. So of course the NHL was interested in the good of the game and the fans. They'd be crazy not to try and make the fans happy.neilm said:Goodenow got a horrible result but in reality I can't say he played his hand poorly.
No league had ever cancelled a season. Lots of deals had gotten done at deadlines.
He did what anyone rational negotiator would have done. He played chicken and the resulting crash is where we are today.
How would you all have played his hand? Cry uncle last August and concede every point then and there? How would you have negotiated from day one?
The only time I'd question his strategy was after the rollback proposal when the NHL refused to even negotiate off this (sports anyway) unprecedented offer, he had to know the jig was up....
He had a crap hand period. The NHL was never interested in the good of the game or the fans (ironic that the majority here supoort them)....they were only interested in breaking the union and guaranteed profits.
Given this foe, how would you have negotiated?
go kim johnsson said:My friend said this to me: "dude what way to get the nhl more good publicity then to have sidney crosby being drafted live on tv"
It's great to know that in the new era of the NHL, that the marketing team is already making mistakes
Icey said:My friend I really hate to tell you this, but outside of our little hockey world, nobody knows nor cares who Sidney Crosby is. What difference does it make if he is drafted on TV or over the telephone.
what will get the NHL good publicity is announcing a new CBA and then the start of the season, but everything in between means nothing to most of the world, because to them hockey doesn't even exist.
Let's face it,we're pretty close to a deal......nothin' wrong with going out and having a few to celebrate the return of the game we all love
jratelle19 said:After the crap that happened in February, I really wouldn't celebrate until the press conference announcing a deal is done. In the meantime, raise your glass tonight just because you love this game so much like all of us do!
(Hope you get lucky, too! )
neilm said:He had a crap hand period. The NHL was never interested in the good of the game or the fans (ironic that the majority here supoort them)....they were only interested in breaking the union and guaranteed profits.
Given this foe, how would you have negotiated?
neilm said:Goodenow got a horrible result but in reality I can't say he played his hand poorly.
No league had ever cancelled a season. Lots of deals had gotten done at deadlines.
He did what anyone rational negotiator would have done. He played chicken and the resulting crash is where we are today.
How would you all have played his hand? Cry uncle last August and concede every point then and there? How would you have negotiated from day one?
The only time I'd question his strategy was after the rollback proposal when the NHL refused to even negotiate off this (sports anyway) unprecedented offer, he had to know the jig was up....
He had a crap hand period. The NHL was never interested in the good of the game or the fans (ironic that the majority here supoort them)....they were only interested in breaking the union and guaranteed profits.
Given this foe, how would you have negotiated?
WC Handy said:Yea... you're right... a financially healthy league isn't good for the fans at all. We should all be supporting the NHLPA's cause and hope that half the teams fold over the next decade. Now THAT would be great for the fans.
I can't believe people are still spouting off this BS. If the owners didn't NEED the CBA that they've been asking for, they would have agreed to something the NHLPA offered a long time ago.
Icey said:And BTW the rumor is that the new CBA is worked off the December 9th proposal.
Icey said:The ONLY reason that the owners need the CBA they are asking for is because they are like a bunch of children who can't control themselves from going to the cookie jar even though they know they shouldn't be.
Icey said:The ONLY reason that the owners need the CBA they are asking for is because they are like a bunch of children who can't control themselves from going to the cookie jar even though they know they shouldn't be. If the owners had acted like the adults they are and worked off a budget this new CBA would not be necessary, but because they can't police themselves they are forced to put themselves into a fool proof system. What happens when teams still lose money in the new CBA will that also be the players fault? If Edmonton couldn't make any money last season with a $33M payroll what will be different next season that will allow them to make money on a $33M payroll because they won't be getting any money from revenue sharing.
And BTW the rumor is that the new CBA is worked off the December 9th proposal.