KingBran
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I hate how people judge DEFENSEmen now by how many points they get.
I hate how people judge DEFENSEmen now by how many points they get.
How does the team with the #1 and #4 dmen and another quality dman in Vlasic have the 11th worst defense in the game last season? Doug Wilson must have gotten a 2nd job at the NHL network after signing that ridiculous Karlsson contract.
They also were the 2nd best Offense in the league, up there with Tampa.
They have a lot of good forwards but no true superstars. Their offense is generated by their D.
They won games due to their offense. They made the Conference final because of it as well.
I hate how people judge DEFENSEmen now by how many points they get.
You replace Polak with a replacement level defender and Heiskanen probably gets 2nd place in the Calder vote. He belongs.
Offense from the backend is weighted heavily, that’s probably why some of these names are here
Pulock played a significant role in the Isles going from arguably the worst defensive team of the modern era to one of the best defensive teams in the league. If you feel Miro is better I have no problem with that opinion but doing a Mike Francessa handwave/dismissal of Pulock is silly.I hate how people judge DEFENSEmen now by how many points they get.
How does the team with the #1 and #4 dmen and another quality dman in Vlasic have the 11th worst defense in the game last season? Doug Wilson must have gotten a 2nd job at the NHL network after signing that ridiculous Karlsson contract.
They made the conference finals because the NHL helped them in two game 7's with extremely favorable calls.
I think that Morrissey is better than Byfuglien or Trouba. He isn’t as flashy as those two, but he’s a better D-man.
How does the team with the #1 and #4 dmen and another quality dman in Vlasic have the 11th worst defense in the game last season? Doug Wilson must have gotten a 2nd job at the NHL network after signing that ridiculous Karlsson contract.
Kudos to the Islanders who were the best defensive team in the NHL last season but don’t have anyone in the top 25 on defense.
As a Bruins fan, and a fan of Krugs game... He's not a top 25 D-man. Maybe, Maybe he's top 35ish.
Not even sure about McAvoy right now, but a few years from now I can see him as a top 15 potentially. He's a unit.
The thing with Morrissey is that the more you ignore him the closer he gets.Actually, I wonder why you have him this low. However, it's good that you included him anyways, as he is still pretty underrated league-wide. For me, he is Winnipeg's best defenseman. He's better than Byfuglien because of consistency. Buff is a Norris candidate when he's at the top of his game. The problem is, you never really know when that is going to happen. Meanwhile, Morrissey is always the mature, talented, steady force on the blueline, and with Trouba gone, you're going to see his offensive number blossom as well.
I liken Morrissey to a Serge Savard type of player.
He just had 56 points in 65 games this past season. Considering how it's always offensive defenseman near the top, and Letang isn't a liability in his own end, yes he is a top-25 defenseman.Letang is not a top 25 defenseman anymore.
I am quite interested in Dumba. Besides the injury how close or far is he becoming elite? Obviously he has the skills.Maybe I'm not watching these guys that closely, but Subban, Werenski and even Trouba on this list before OEL, McDonagh, Spurgeon and a homer vote Dumba, who I think has a strong case too? I'd not include Heiskanen and Dahlin on this list just yet. They are fringe - ie very close and might even secure their spots before we hit half way mark of the next season.
I am quite interested in Dumba. Besides the injury how close or far is he becoming elite? Obviously he has the skills.