NHL needs a deal by June 1st

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PepNCheese said:
The players should be responsible for motivating the owners to be honest? I find that morality rather twisted.

It's hard to police a group of people who will lie to the IRS. NHL apologists like to sweep this issue under the rug, just like Jacobs tried to do with his broadcast revenues. No dice.

It's called an airtight business partnership Pep. Happens all the time in the real world, where big former competitors come togther and hire well paid lawyers to make sure they don't get ripped off.

An "inflationary loophole" in the most current context being...?
Goodenow's every move has been designed to ensure that competition between franchises will ensure the salary spiral continues and that the big spenders get to continue to set the market for the league.

Bettman turned it into a war. He locked out the players and proceeded to pound them with the same thing over and over. It's only when the owners realized that replacements were going to fail that they decided to start negotiating for real.
The league has been trying to get Bob to negotiate for years. He still hasn't begun. The offers made so far were simply to make impasse difficult or attempt to get a split in the ownership group.

A smarter leader for the league would have realized that true victory was won with the salary cap offer from the players. A smarter leader would have realized the deal should have been signed right then, and any possible damage for the following season averted. Instead, Bettman decided to go for the home run.

A smart leader knows his opponent well. Bettman know Goodenow like the back of his hand. Gary has handled this exactly how it was needed considering the man he's up against.

The salary cap offer was not designed to get a deal done, but simply to throw a wrench in the impasse works. The numbers were ridiculously high and clause 7 indexing them to the low point in revenues next season was a classic poison pill, designed to make the deal unsellable to ownership.
 

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Wetcoaster said:
Last time I looked it was the NHL who initiated the lockout and it has been the NHLPA who have made concessions.
Correct on both counts.

Now please explain how the players dumping Goodenow automatically causes you to assume they would bring back Eagleson (or a clone).

Goodenow is the wrong man for THIS negotiations.
 

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A smarter leader for the league would have realized that true victory was won with the salary cap offer from the players.

A smart leader for the league is aware that "victory" means nothing if it still doesn't lead to health and stability, and a "salary cap", especially one that was over 50 million, doesn't lead anywhere close to either.

Some of you PA people need to stop blabbering about "winning" and realize that you can "win" a negotiation (as in, win concessions from the other side) and still be screwed. The NHL owners are not interested in just "winning", the SURVIVAL of their NHL teams (as they see and believe it, whether you do or not) is at stake.

"Winning" in the eyes of too many players and many gullible or impressionable fans is not the issue and, on the NHL's side, never has been. That flawed view is probably why so many players are stupidly toeing the company line even to this day. It's called losing perspective.
 
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