NHL-IIHF transfer agreement ratified; 4 years

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  1. LadyStanley

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    so how much are the deals worth? I still don't think Euro teams are getting fair market value for the players they develop. NHL teams should have to pay up if they want foreign imports.
     
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    Both the Hockey News and TSN pieces are the same AP wire copy:

     
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    So... what exactly is the status of the Russian players then? Would it affect mainly the players who have not signed NHL contracts and are they at all close on to an agreement with the Russians? What is the latest?
     
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    200, 000 seems cheap for a player that a foreign team develops. the foreign team should be able to sell for whatever they want..... this is capitalism right?
     
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    I think that's pretty fair. So the player leaves and the team needs to pay the club 2/3 of his remaining contract at the maximum? Pretty good deal for the Russian clubs.

    I also like that the Russian teams can't just release a guy without compensation, either. Not only is it more fair for the Russian teams with the compensation for them, it's also more fair for the players.
     
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    Not really. If player leaves he should pay 2/3 of average salary he got in club per year.
    For example, if player got $1m in first season, $2m in second, and then decides to leave team, he should pay 2/3*1.5 ($3m for 2 years => $1.5 average for 1 year) = $1m.

    Yep, I like that too :)
     
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    While I think you're nitpicking at my math a bit too much there, we do both agree that it is a good thing.

    I always felt that the Russians got ****ed in the ass with the transfer agreement -- as do ALL European teams.

    They should at LEAST get the contract that they signed the player to bought out and the 2/3 buyout is a very good thing, AFAIC. All teams should get that.
     
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    I'm just not sure that you can understand my english right :naughty:

    Yep, what I like in 2/3 buyout that it really displays how much that player means to his team. But I would change 2/3 of average salary to 2/3 of last year salary.
    In this case, Metallurg woudn't get much money for Malkin, just because when he started playing for Metallurg he didn't get payed much. 2/3 of average works fine with not young players, and works bad with young players (like Cherepanov next year, I'm not sure he will get more than $500,000 next season, so if law have been already in action now, compensation wouldn't be high). While compensation for Perezhogin (example only, I don't think somebody will even try to buy-out him :D) would be high (2/3*$1.7m=$1.1m).
     
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    The problem here is that the $200,000 is much more reasonable to some teams than others. You can easily see how that money is different to a Finnish club using $2M to salaries and a Russian club using $10M. Of course there are some other problems with the deal, namely people thinking that those deadlines etc. don't really seem to matter anything and the rules can be bend if some NHL team wants a player.
     
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    Yup, who did the RSL think they were?? The NFL?:naughty:
     

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