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OTTSENS said:And I suppose the NHLPA is looking to make a deal. Yeah right !!!
I doubt it, but it's possible. Neither one has been trying to make a deal except for the days leading to the season being cancelled.
OTTSENS said:And I suppose the NHLPA is looking to make a deal. Yeah right !!!
pjbth said:That depends on if you support the players or owners.
The courts have a record of finding against big business and in favor of unions,(in Canada anyway)
take your blinder's offOTTSENS said:And I suppose the NHLPA is looking to make a deal. Yeah right !!!
Mat said:to get the best financial deal possible for the players
and by rejecting all the owners have thrown his way so far at least shows hes sitll trying to reach his goal
bettman on the other hand has failed at growing the game, keeping the product exciting, losing sponsors, and he lost an entire seasons worth of revenue
if i were an owner id have fired him 6 years ago
Mat said:if i were an owner id have fired (bettman) 6 years ago
Icey said:Just because schools are open and mailed get delivered does not mean Good Friday is not a big holiday. Don't know what religion you are, but it is the most religious holiday in the Catholic religion. It is a very big religious holiday, however state, federal and city offices are not allowed to observe religious holidays and that is why they are mostly all open. Public schools around me are all closed for spring break this entire week.
But the NHLPA looks more like the mafia every day.
What a pile on Non Sense and over reaction you posted there ..ladybugblue said:I was just pointing out that it is not treated like it is in Canada where almost everything is closed. It is a huge holiday in Canada (whether you are Christian or not) but it is not treated like a sacred day as the poster was suggesting. Not saying it isn't an important day for most people but it is treated very differently between the U.S. and Canada...my daughter had school today and doesn't get spring break until next week.
The poster was saying that this was almost a sin that this occurred on Good Friday. I think that is a little over dramatic. It may have become public today but was filed earlier this week. Attacking the NHL because you are angry that this dispute isn't following your personal script is narrow minded and ignorant. Some people need to take a step back and not take this so personally. This is a business dispute and none of us are personally effected (unless some posters are players or owners) so the dramatics really should stop. I know it won't stop it but I was trying to point out that it was as bad as Messenger was saying.
mr gib said:take your blinder's off
The Messenger said:What a pile on Non Sense and over reaction you posted there ..
I typed these few words ...
"The timing of it coming out on Easter "Good Friday", perhaps the most important religious holiday can't get the NHL any favourable Fan support !!!"
and you needed 2 full paragraphs to get all that out of my one sentance ..I just pointed out that of all days to start Legal Action ..this would be considered offensive to many people because of the timing ..
i'll give you some latitude on some issue's concerning bob - pebble beach - that's pretty bad pr wise - where is the league gonna be if you guys's hate the player's so much - the deal was there to make - do you realize that after july 1 - coupled with the 24 percent rollback - all the big bad spender's - will be under 45 mil - bettman want's to crush the very product - and his track record is absolutely sad - you owner dood's have to admit it - i don't believe bob and gary together can actually make a deal at all - binding arbitration is a must - this replacement thing - for **** sakes -Mr.Hunter74 said:Your one to talk.
Its about time the NHL started to take it to the NHLPA. I bet alot of players are happy that the NHL is filling a complaint about this particular issue. I dont think anyone likes to be strongarmed like the players are currently being. Bob has a reputation of intimidating his employees. At least thats what the media portrayed a few montsh ago.
As for bad timing on the NHL's part b/c of the NHLPA meetings. If the players are so proffesional this shouldn't affect a proposal b/c this is just business and nothing personal. Right??
Its funny how all the Pro-PA guys are grasping at straws big time in this thread. Kinda reminds me of those fans that make up all kinds of stupid excuses when there team is losing or just playing badly. Keep it up boys. You Pro-Pa guys keep it up b/c you make everyone else on this board look like geniuses. :lol :lol
ladybugblue said:I was just pointing out that it is not treated like it is in Canada where almost everything is closed. It is a huge holiday in Canada (whether you are Christian or not) but it is not treated like a sacred day as the poster was suggesting. Not saying it isn't an important day for most people but it is treated very differently between the U.S. and Canada...my daughter had school today and doesn't get spring break until next week.
The poster was saying that this was almost a sin that this occurred on Good Friday. I think that is a little over dramatic. It may have become public today but was filed earlier this week. Attacking the NHL because you are angry that this dispute isn't following your personal script is narrow minded and ignorant. Some people need to take a step back and not take this so personally. This is a business dispute and none of us are personally effected (unless some posters are players or owners) so the dramatics really should stop. I know it won't stop it but I was trying to point out that it wasn't as bad as Messenger was saying.
Mr.Hunter74 said:Your one to talk.
Its about time the NHL started to take it to the NHLPA. I bet alot of players are happy that the NHL is filling a complaint about this particular issue.
Its funny how all the Pro-PA guys are grasping at straws big time in this thread. Kinda reminds me of those fans that make up all kinds of stupid excuses when there team is losing or just playing badly. Keep it up boys. You Pro-Pa guys keep it up b/c you make everyone else on this board look like geniuses. :lol :lol
mr gib said:i'll give you some latitude on some issue's concerning bob - pebble beach - that's pretty bad pr wise - where is the league gonna be if you guys's hate the player's so much - the deal was there to make - do you realize that after july 1 - coupled with the 24 percent rollback - all the big bad spender's - will be under 45 mil - bettman want's to crush the very product - and his track record is absolutely sad - you owner dood's have to admit it - i don't believe bob and gary together can actually make a deal at all - binding arbitration is a must - this replacement thing - for **** sakes -
Did you forget to eat your all-brand cereal again this morning? You seem a little constipated.mr gib said:take your blinder's off
What makes you figure?blamebettman said:I think the hard liners that are running this thing are having pressure put on them by the rest of the franchises. If this thing doesn't get settled soon then Goodenow WILL get the deal that he wants.
mr gib said:8 - 10 owner's anyway - even calgary and edmonton made money last year - what the pa is offering is workable - it has been posted on this site - i respect your response - i have some more to say - let me ponder for a bit -
blamebettman said:If this thing doesn't get settled soon then Goodenow WILL get the deal that he wants.
blamebettman said:I think the hard liners that are running this thing are having pressure put on them by the rest of the franchises. If this thing doesn't get settled soon then Goodenow WILL get the deal that he wants.
this is nothing more than a fake, a scare tactic that the players were warned about in there meetings probably. Bettman has tried to drive a wedge through the PA for months already and they've stood there ground.
blamebettman said:honestly, you really think that's goodenows last offer, going by his track record, why would you bet against Goodenow?
simply put, the rest of the teams will sour on Bettman. Remember, Bettman promised them all "XYZ", so when Bettman does not deliver, when he doesn't break the NHLPA, the rest of the teams say enough, and they'll settle for a rollback and a soft cap around 47 mil probably.
Bettman and his groups pretty much promised them the complete destruction of the NHLPA, and it sounded pretty enticing, but it's also becoming clear that it will never happen, that the players have held out much longer than anybody expected. Underestimating Goodenow again was the NHL's biggest mistake.
that's why the NHL is running around like chickens with there head cut off not knowing what the heck to do, they didn't expect to even be in this situation.
blamebettman said:honestly, you really think that's goodenows last offer, going by his track record, why would you bet against Goodenow?
simply put, the rest of the teams will sour on Bettman. Remember, Bettman promised them all "XYZ", so when Bettman does not deliver, when he doesn't break the NHLPA, the rest of the teams say enough, and they'll settle for a rollback and a soft cap around 47 mil probably.
Bettman and his groups pretty much promised them the complete destruction of the NHLPA, and it sounded pretty enticing, but it's also becoming clear that it will never happen, that the players have held out much longer than anybody expected. Underestimating Goodenow again was the NHL's biggest mistake.
that's why the NHL is running around like chickens with there head cut off not knowing what the heck to do, they didn't expect to even be in this situation.