NHL Eying 4 Cities To Resume Play In? Edmonton? Part 2

[Bryanbryoil]

If you're not concerned that's good. I have a different view.

You've mentioned trusting the government and science in other threads. IMO by most reports Alberta has done very well containing this virus outside of a few exceptions. I suspect that Hinshaw (who sounds like she has done a very good job for Albertan's) will do what is best for the people of Alberta. I understand your concern and it is a legit one, but as long as quarantines are adhered to and once they are done players are treated like any other Albertan, things should work out pretty well with just a few hurdles here and there IMO. The best things for those that are concerned can do are to wear masks, keep up with social distancing and practice good hygiene as the virus is still being transmitted almost worldwide. Ultimately people world wide will do goofy things so we have to be prepared to protect ourselves and families as best we can because it only takes one idiot to get us sick.

 

[Porkleaker]

You've mentioned trusting the government and science in other threads. IMO by most reports Alberta has done very well containing this virus outside of a few exceptions. I suspect that Hinshaw (who sounds like she has done a very good job for Albertan's) will do what is best for the people of Alberta. I understand your concern and it is a legit one, but as long as quarantines are adhered to and once they are done players are treated like any other Albertan, things should work out pretty well with just a few hurdles here and there IMO. The best things for those that are concerned can do are to wear masks, keep up with social distancing and practice good hygiene as the virus is still being transmitted almost worldwide. Ultimately people world wide will do goofy things so we have to be prepared to protect ourselves and families as best we can because it only takes one idiot to get us sick.

Edmonton seems like a very logical spot, as does Vancouver, doesn't really matter where you're playing, there are no fans and home ice really means nothing, the East coast seems to have the worst of the Outbreaks so why not just have it in the safest environment with the lowest cases. If there's a 14-day quarantine, which there should be anywhere they go, then it wouldn't matter. But I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHL go with US cities just to avoid the safety measures, which is a dumb idea. I guess we'll see.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Edmonton seems like a very logical spot, as does Vancouver, doesn't really matter where you're playing, there are no fans and home ice really means nothing, the East coast seems to have the worst of the Outbreaks so why not just have it in the safest environment with the lowest cases. If there's a 14-day quarantine, which there should be anywhere they go, then it wouldn't matter. But I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHL go with US cities just to avoid the safety measures, which is a dumb idea. I guess we'll see.

IMO Edmonton and Vancouver make the most sense if you are looking at safety first and foremost. IMO it's an open and shut case. a bunch of 20 somethings that have been cooped up for months in a place like Vegas sounds like a bad idea to me. Ultimately the players and Commissioner need to agree. If the players are going to be vain and crap on a place like Edmonton in favor of a more glamorous but dangerous location then I don't want to hear moaning if things get shut down.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Ok, fair enough about Edmonton not exactly being a tourist destination, but I got to think Vancouver has got to be a decent place for those looking for the amenities of a “world class city”

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

 

[McTonyBrar]

This is why I dont want the players near Edmonton.

Relax dude. The player has already recovered according to Twitter

 

[McTonyBrar]

You've mentioned trusting the government and science in other threads. IMO by most reports Alberta has done very well containing this virus outside of a few exceptions. I suspect that Hinshaw (who sounds like she has done a very good job for Albertan's) will do what is best for the people of Alberta. I understand your concern and it is a legit one, but as long as quarantines are adhered to and once they are done players are treated like any other Albertan, things should work out pretty well with just a few hurdles here and there IMO. The best things for those that are concerned can do are to wear masks, keep up with social distancing and practice good hygiene as the virus is still being transmitted almost worldwide. Ultimately people world wide will do goofy things so we have to be prepared to protect ourselves and families as best we can because it only takes one idiot to get us sick.

I hope I am not shooting myself or my friends in the foot by saying but me and 2 others have been working out in our home gym in the garage and we just make sure to wash our hands after the workouts, drink from our own water bottles, etc and we have been fine. Not to be a full on conspiracist, but I feel like this virus is getting hyped up to be more dangerous than it is in reality

 

[Senor Catface]

Relax dude. The player has already recovered according to Twitter

That's not what I heard.

I heard he's basically a 28 days later zombie now.

 

[Tyrolean]

IMO Edmonton and Vancouver make the most sense if you are looking at safety first and foremost. IMO it's an open and shut case. a bunch of 20 somethings that have been cooped up for months in a place like Vegas sounds like a bad idea to me. Ultimately the players and Commissioner need to agree. If the players are going to be vain and crap on a place like Edmonton in favor of a more glamorous but dangerous location then I don't want to hear moaning if things get shut down.

It should be held in Winnipeg then. MB has the lowest cases amongst the Canadian NHL provinces.

 

[MessierII]

It should be held in Winnipeg then. MB has the lowest cases amongst the Canadian NHL provinces.

Trouble with them is the hotels and infrastructure to support that many teams.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It should be held in Winnipeg then. MB has the lowest cases amongst the Canadian NHL provinces.

Trouble with them is the hotels and infrastructure to support that many teams.

They would have to truck in a rig camp made of ATCO trailers and build a makeshift airport in a farmer's field to support that many teams.

 

[doulos]

Relax dude. The player has already recovered according to Twitter

Quite relaxed. Just expressing my own personal concerns. No one has to agree.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

City of Edmonton has decided to let their state of local emergency lapse. Hope this means the players are allowed to use Rogers or the Community Arena.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

City of Edmonton has 47 active cases of the 334 active cases in the province as of yesterday. Calgary's number of active cases continues to decline relatively quickly but still stands at 247. Hopefully the decline in cases continues for the province in Phase 2.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/what-you-need-to-know-alberta-june-5-1.5599855

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

City of Edmonton has decided to let their state of local emergency lapse. Hope this means the players are allowed to use Rogers or the Community Arena.

That would be good with the NHL's Phase 2 beginning Monday allowing up to 6 players on ice at a time. Currently arenas aren't scheduled to open until Alberta's Stage 3 though, and Stage 2 isn't planned to start currently until June 19th.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/deena-hinshaw-covid-19-coronavirus-1.5596709

Not sure about the technicalities but NHL players gathering on Rogers Place ice are essentially a private work gathering where employees would be adhering to proper social distancing safety protocols, just on the ice instead of in an office for example. It's not like it's a public rec center or arena opening, it's essentially in this circumstance being used as a private training facility.

How many Oilers players are actually in Edmonton right now that would potentially be getting on the ice if it is allowed?

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

As posted in another thread it looks like the Oilers are planning to have some players back on the ice Monday.

Winnipeg Jets, Montreal Canadiens not opening rinks on Monday - TSN.ca

 

[McBeastMode]

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[McBeastMode]

It should be held in Winnipeg then. MB has the lowest cases amongst the Canadian NHL provinces.

I agree, but the lack of an airport, is my main concern..

 

[Cloned]

Edmonton up to 56 active cases today, was down to about 41 cases at some point last week I think.

To be expected with reopening, and I think a lot of the new cases are due to the family outbreaks. Seems like they're in Rutherford/Mill Woods. There is also a cluster in Jasper Gates. Good news is that the 16 or so active cases that were in the North side last week are down to about 4 cases now.

If we can keep our active cases around 50 we'll be in good shape for whatever things we want to do in terms of hosting games, etc.

 

[LTIR]

Edmonton up to 56 active cases today, was down to about 41 cases at some point last week I think.

To be expected with reopening, and I think a lot of the new cases are due to the family outbreaks. Seems like they're in Rutherford/Mill Woods. There is also a cluster in Jasper Gates. Good news is that the 16 or so active cases that were in the North side last week are down to about 4 cases now.

If we can keep our active cases around 50 we'll be in good shape for whatever things we want to do in terms of hosting games, etc.

Yeh, EDM had one bad day yesterday jumping from mid 40s to mid 50s in a day. Today has been a great day for Alberta.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

 

[oilexport]

Inuvik NWT. They could play outdoors and call it the stanley cup classic.

Sleep in individual igloos too. Ron maclean can be the house keeper who turns in players that cough.

 

[BarDownBobo]

Or the team with fewer points has to beat the team with more points twice, both games (if required) in the rink of the team with more points. If the team with more points wins the first game, series is over.

I kinda love this idea. Forcing the lower team to win two games makes it so the regular season isn’t completely a wash. With the regular season usually ending on a Saturday night they could hold these games on the Monday-Thursday and then have the actual playoffs start the following weekend. The wildcard games in baseball build up so much hype I imagine this would have the same effect.

 

[BarDownBobo]

That would be good with the NHL's Phase 2 beginning Monday allowing up to 6 players on ice at a time. Currently arenas aren't scheduled to open until Alberta's Stage 3 though, and Stage 2 isn't planned to start currently until June 19th.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/deena-hinshaw-covid-19-coronavirus-1.5596709

Not sure about the technicalities but NHL players gathering on Rogers Place ice are essentially a private work gathering where employees would be adhering to proper social distancing safety protocols, just on the ice instead of in an office for example. It's not like it's a public rec center or arena opening, it's essentially in this circumstance being used as a private training facility.

How many Oilers players are actually in Edmonton right now that would potentially be getting on the ice if it is allowed?

I think we’re gonna see some kind of announcement about this soon, from what I’ve heard River Cree is planning to open up their rinks for small practice groups sometime next week.

 

[bellagiobob]

Edmonton up to 56 active cases today, was down to about 41 cases at some point last week I think.

To be expected with reopening, and I think a lot of the new cases are due to the family outbreaks. Seems like they're in Rutherford/Mill Woods. There is also a cluster in Jasper Gates. Good news is that the 16 or so active cases that were in the North side last week are down to about 4 cases now.

If we can keep our active cases around 50 we'll be in good shape for whatever things we want to do in terms of hosting games, etc.

We have 10 active cases still from May 31 and 10 from May 29, so those are the two big days. Average per day for the last week (excluding May 31) has been about 5 a day. Interesting there is still one from Apr 28 shown as active.