Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by LeafsNation75, Jan 24, 2020.
These idiots are going to vote Fleury into the HHoF...
So the NHL doesn’t include Toews in the all decade team but he makes the top 100??? Everything he did was done in this decade!! THIS MAKES NO SENSE ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Retribution for Malkin though. Who needs the top 100 when you make the all decade team
There is a lot wrong with someone thinking Fleury is the best goalie of the decade.
Hedman will probably be the best overall d-man from 2015 to 2025.
Probably because he wasn't in the Norris discussion until the 2nd half of the decade
MAF wasn't even nominated for a Vezina this decade. His best finishes were 4 & 5, I mean even Dubnyk was nominated & Bishop was nominated 3 times (despite not being a starter for 4 of those seasons. Now I'm not saying they are better picks but it puts things into perspective.
Sure he has a ton of wins but its not hard to win games when you play with 2 of the top 3 players of the era.
Even Grant Fuhr won a Vezina and placed well in voting while playing on a dynasty with multiple HHOF'ers including the best player ever at his peak.
I would presume they are "starting" the decade in Sept 2009. If not then the Pens may have been the team of the decade as it would've included June 2009.
2009-2010| 2018-2019 is 10 seasons (or 9.5 if you want to call 2013 a half season)
To clarify..Chsra declined early in the decade?
Relatively early, yea. His last Norris level season was '13-14. He's been a good player since, but not an elite one. That's not saying he's a terrible selection, but I don't think he's a clear pick, and I think Hedman has a case for being above him for more longevity as an elite player.
Pathetic, the NHL is absolutely pathetic. Lundqvist and Karlsson are both clearly the two best players at their position for the decade.
Karlsson/Malkin both have cause for being on the 1st AST. Malkin above Kane, and Karlsson above either of the other 2.....but, it's close. Like, really close. So not the worst selections,
The goalies are bad. I guess Henrik would have been the best choice for #1. Price is a better option for #2 than Fleury. Few other names too. Fleury certainly shouldn't have been #1.
I also don't like the Chara nomination. What about Weber, Subban, Hedman...maybe i'm forgetting someone. Doesn't feel like Chara was near his best long enough.
Finally - would have really liked to see McDavid on 2nd team. Probably above Bergeron. I get that he only has 4 seasons, but he did so well in the Ross, Hart, Linday placements that he should absolutely be there imo.
Top 3 in Norris voting for 2010-19;
PlayerNorris wins2nd or 3rd in votesKarlsson22Keith2Doughty13Hedman12Subban12Chara3Weber3
MAF is one of my favorite players ever but WTF
I like MAF and for example don´t like Price, but I´d be more comfortable seing Price here.. or Luongo maybe
You should see canes fans with ward
He's not Canadian.
Truer words has never been spoken
About the only thing that spoils MAF's legacy in Pittsburgh is people making it out to be more than it is and this first team is exactly that.
Using silly awards to base a selection is lazy. If that were the case, Bob is the goalie of the decade, which he isn't. It's probably Hank, although a case could be made for Rask, or if Cups is a criteria, Quick.
The Fleury selection is bad. There's a reason the Pens were willing to part ways with, in all likelihood, the most liked athlete in the city's history. He's got a big chunk of poor playoff performances during the last decade.
Pens kept the wrong goalie.
Fleury over Lundqvist is insane.
Fleury got it because he has a Stanley Cup and that's all people care about for goalies.
Fleury had four consecutive playoffs with this stat line, .891, .899, .834, .883. No goalie that has a stretch like that, being that costly to his team in the post season, should ever be considered for 1st on the all decade team. And I get it, Fleury has wins... playing for the Penguins. A guy like Lundqvist would already be well past 500 wins if he was drafted by Pittsburgh.
Meanwhile, in the same decade, Lundqvist had a four year stretch in the post season of .931, .934, .927, and .928 [over 70 games].
Not to mention Lundqvist won a Vezina, was 1st all star team, 2nd all star team in the same decade.
Fleury over Lundqvist, Rask, Price, even Rinne is just ludicrous to me.
I think they’ve got the right D as both Doughty and Keith were absolutely amazing in their SC runs. I’d have Lunqvist 1st who I think is a Brodeur comparable talent who’s been on a lesser team than the NJ Devis were. I agree with Kane over Malkin, who has been injured or at least did not perform great as regularly.
My biggest takeaway from goaltending last decade is with Lundqvist(deservedly) thought of as the best goalie in that time frame it was a pretty lame decade for goalies.
Also MAF sucks, but the right people like him I guess, so expect him to receive attention/accolades that he doesn’t deserve.
Look at the teams they played for. Jesus christ imagine actually being obtuse enough to think this. Fleury has half a ring as a starter from 2010-19 he rode the bench in 16. Fleury has worse stats, never even won an individual award (let alone even be a finalist)
Fleury has never been a top 5 goalie in any given season. Even Vegas iced like 5 goalies their inaguaral season and didnt miss a beat when fleury missed half the season they werent ever carried by him. Fleury has never carried a team, only been carried
They arent you clown 2009-19 is 11 years stay in school. NHL used 2010-19
Karlsson vs Doughty on the first team is a good debate. As most seem to be im suprised Fleury is on the 1st list
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