GDT: NHL 2024 Draft Lottery: Tuesday, May 7th, 6:30 pm | ESPN, ESPN+, SN, TVAS, Fubo (live stream with free trial) (Habs pick 5th)

[Gravity]

MOD edit: Teams can move up maximum of 10 spots. It's a count down of all 16 teams that missed playoffs.

Current Draft Order:

16. St. Louis Blues
15. Detroit Red Wings
14. Pittsburgh Penguins (SJS own this pick due to Karlsson trade)
13. Minnesota Wild
12. Philadelphia Flyers
11. Buffalo Sabres
10. New Jersey Devils
9. Calgary Flames
8. Seattle Kraken
7. Ottawa Senators
6. Utah Hockey Club
5. Montreal Canadiens
4. Columbus Blue Jackets
3. Anaheim Ducks
2. Chicago Blackhawks
1. San Jose Sharks


Just excited about the Celebrini sweepstakes. T-minus 3 days until we find out!

I have this horrible gut feeling Chicago or Utah wins 1st Ov.

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[Tuggy]

- We were lucky when we stayed at 1st to draft Slafkovsky (there was only like a 25% chance of doing so).

- we were lucky to stay at 5 last year, we had a less than 50% chance of doing so.

- we were lucky in the KK draft to win one of the top 3 picks in the lottery.

- we were lucky in the Price draft after the lockout and get that top 5 pick.

We've actually been on the luckier side of things with the lottery. Our scouts in the KK and Galchenyuk drafts just failed.

Definitely. We've had some good lottery luck.

The years it has happened and our drafting hasn't always been the best however...

Look at some of the other teams if you want to see true bad lottery luck.

 

[schwang26]

I see it in a different way. If we don't win the lottery, it's likely we are picking 6 or 5. In this case, I see us potentially trading down to around 10 ish. That may add another late 1st and then we use those two 1st to move up to mid round ish. If Demidov & Lindstrom get picked before us, it's very possible Hughes banks on the D going and the forwards like Iggy, Catton, Eiserman fall to around 10. We trade down in a way where we get one of them for sure. That sort of thing.

However, I do think Gorton/Hughes are after guys who can help us now. For all we know, there is a handshake deal with the Ducks on Zegras and we are trading our pick for him if we don't win the lottery. Not sure if I like or dislike it but this could be a real possibility. 5-7 for Zegras.

I thought the same thing. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the pick traded if we don’t win the lottery. A top 6 winger now, or in 3-5 years? Which is more important at this stage?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Bob really trying to get me going having demidov at 6 on his list.

I won't fall for your tricks and get my hopes up bob , you sly fox

 

[CDN24]

MOD edit: Teams can move up maximum of 10 spots. It's a count down of all 16 teams that missed playoffs.

Current Draft Order:

16. St. Louis Blues
15. Detroit Red Wings
14. Pittsburgh Penguins (SJS own this pick due to Karlsson trade)
13. Minnesota Wild
12. Philadelphia Flyers
11. Buffalo Sabres
10. New Jersey Devils
9. Calgary Flames
8. Seattle Kraken
7. Ottawa Senators
6. Utah Hockey Club
5. Montreal Canadiens
4. Columbus Blue Jackets
3. Anaheim Ducks
2. Chicago Blackhawks
1. San Jose Sharks


Just excited about the Celebrini sweepstakes. T-minus 3 days until we find out!

I have this horrible gut feeling Chicago or Utah wins 1st Ov.

Chicago, Utah or any western conference team would be less horrible than Sens/Sabres

 

[JeffreyLFC]

In your mind maybe, I guarantee that no team feels like that. While they may prefer different players, no GM thinks they are interchangeable.

Obviously not, every team have ranking for a reason, the point is the talent gap is very small.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Obviously not, every team have ranking for a reason, the point is the talent gap is very small.

Not necessarily. There is just a wider divergence on who will be the best player. In five years, the talent gap will be quite large in the top 15. Habs want to pick a good one. Like Hughes said, he doesn't want to throw darts at a dart board...

 

[the]

Please don't move down. I wasn't even expecting us to draft 5th overall heading into the season so I'm more than happy with that pick.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

I think it would be fitting that Utah gets the pick with Arizona having the worst lottery luck in the current draft era. I took a deep dive to find all the winners in since the draft began in 1995:

3x Winners:

Edmonton: Hall in 2010, Yakupov in 2012, and some other guy in 2015.

NJ: moving up to 4 to get Larsson in 2011, Hischier in 2017, and Hughes in 2019.

Florida: 2002 (traded down to 3 and still got Bouwmeester), 2003 (traded down again to 3 and got Horton), 2014 to get Ekblad

Chicago: 1999 (moving up from #8 to #4, pick was traded to the Rangers), 2007 to get Kane, 2023 to get Bedard

2x Winners:

NYI: 2000 to get DiPietro and 2009 to get Tavares

Buffalo: 2018 to get Dahlin, 2021 to get Power

1x Winner:

Los Angeles: 1995: moved from 7 to 3 and took Berg

Ottawa: 1996 to take Phillips

Boston: 1997 to take Thornton

San Jose: 1998: won the lottery but TB had the option to switch picks, which they exercised. They drafted Stuart at 3.

Atlanta: 2001 to take Kovalchuk.

Washington: 2004 to get Ovechkin

Pittsburgh: 2005 to get Crosby

St. Louis: 2006 to get Johnson

TB: 2008 to get Stamkos

Colorado: 2013 to get MacKinnon

Toronto: 2016 to get Matthews

Rangers: 2020 to get Lafreniere

Montreal: 2022 to get unquestionably the best #1 since Lemieux, Slafkovsky



Soooo… having spent over an hour at 3 in the morning, I think the moral victory should go to Utah. Though they’ve been a tire fire for the majority of their existence since they left Winnipeg. I think the ranking for who should get the #1 pick should be as follows:

1. Anaheim: They've never won nor have they had the first pick. They've been a credible franchise since joining the league.

2. Columbus: If they'd never drafted first overall I'd give it to them. They did in '03 but they traded up to do so. They've had a miserable existence but not because of a lack of fan support or willingness. They're the lovable losers (unlike the Leafs who are deserving losers).

3. San Jose: The only time they won it they had to give it up. They've been a model franchise; they put good teams together and just were never able to take that last step. They dropped to 3 because they sold off all their assets, got rid of all their best players like bitches and tanked the dishonourable way (unlike us who tanked the honourable way: by just sucking).

4. Utah: They certainly get the sympathy vote given the aforementioned lottery luck. But as also said they were horribly mismanaged and now that they've moved they're like an expansion team. Should Vegas have won the lottery in 2017? It's 4 in the morning, logic doesn't count now. Shut up.

5. Montreal: Yeah yeah, I'm betraying the the tribe blah blah. Fact is we got 1st a few years ago, and have picked first, third, fifth, and at worst 7th this year since 2018. Plus we got a steal when our last dipstick was actually shrewd instead of moronic and drafted a fantastic player with the second last pick of the first round in 2021 (even though he may have been perceived as an a-hole at the time for doing so). We have a lot of assets and many more to come. I'm trying to be fair and objective. Bite me.

6 - 13 Who gives a crap.

14. Buffalo: Screw em. They won in 18 and 20, and have so much talent they can't keep it all. And they STILL suck. Bad enough the league rewarded incompetence with the Oilers (though I guess it's karma since the Oilers play in Edmonton. Gross), don't do it again with these idiots.

15. New Jersey: Screw em hard. They've won and gone first in 17 and 19. They took the next step last year and fell off a cliff this year. They've got top caliber players at each position. They don't deserve it.

16. Chicago: Screw them most, without lube. They got two great players when they won 1st overall. Especially last year when I really wanted Bedard. They were worse than San Jose in their dishonourability (?). Plus nothing happened to Wirtz when he tried to silence two of his own players that were sexually assaulted by HIS staff. Hope he's rotting in hell. New Jersey loses a first round pick for trying to structure Kovalchuk's contract to circumvent the cap (I believe eventually reduced to being the last pick in the first round). Ottawa loses a pick for its role in not relaying information about a NTC. Chicago gives their players a giant middle finger when they were sexually assaulted and they get a fine. *%!@ that. They should lose multiple first rounders and had been forced to sell the team. I guess I have strong feelings about this. They should go down to 4th and draft the biggest bust in the history of the game. Starting next year, they should have the last pick in every round until 2314.

Well, it's 4:30 and this took over two and a half hours. Another great life decision. I started by saying Utah deserved to win the lottery and talked myself into lowering them to fourth. And nobody is probably going to read it anyway, so a great use of my time. I'm real smrt. Goodnight.

Love you big guy.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Ivan Demidov may be here as early as this summer?

 

[le_sean]

Staying put at 5 is a win for me. Just hoping for that

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Ivan Demidov may be here as early as this summer?

Yes I suspect its one of the reason the habs were higher on him than michkov , although it looks like Michkov is in somewhat of a beef with Russian Hockey right now and might also come earlier

 

[Beer and Chips]

Ivan Demidov may be here as early as this summer?

Not for the AHL he won't.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hahahahahahaha 1st spin result, of all the possible scenarios:

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Even without looking at those crazy jumps, that top 4 is the worst case scenario for us if we are picking 5 or later.

 

[salbutera]

Can the NHL just anoint Habs as having 1OA and call it a day already… no need to waste everyone’s time

 

[sampollock]

need #1
so make it happen , let's go

 

[Deebs]

Ivan Demidov may be here as early as this summer?

In Laval playing with Lane.....LET'S GO!!!!

 

[Kairi Zaide]

It's 05/07

5 -> 7

Sorry :/

 

[Seb]

In Laval playing with Lane.....LET'S GO!!!!

Celebrini in Montréal playing with Lane would be even better!

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Not necessarily. There is just a wider divergence on who will be the best player. In five years, the talent gap will be quite large in the top 15. Habs want to pick a good one. Like Hughes said, he doesn't want to throw darts at a dart board...

As always, but every year there are better player drafted in the later portion of the draft, that's the nature of a draft. It's not about throwing dart (god I hate that expression), it's making sure you get good value and a player your scouting want.

 

[Deebs]

Celebrini in Montréal playing with Lane would be even better!

Dare to dream Arnold....dare to dream .

 

[waffledave]

Celebrini would mean the rebuild is basically over.

I'm not sure some fans on this board are prepared to stop cheering for their team to lose.

 

[Deebs]

Celebrini would mean the rebuild is basically over.

I'm not sure some fans on this board are prepared to stop cheering for their team to lose.

Not so sure about that but it would definitely make things easier.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Celebrini would mean the rebuild is basically over.

I'm not sure some fans on this board are prepared to stop cheering for their team to lose.

My body is ready.

 

[sampollock]

Celebrini would mean the rebuild is basically over.

I'm not sure some fans on this board are prepared to stop cheering for their team to lose.

sure would help for dang sure

 

[SwiftyHab]

If we miss 1-2 tonight, this is ok too