NFL GDT: NFL Week 13

Roboturner913

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Are you kidding me? They were past their own 40 with a 4th and 3 with 2:27 to go. If they made the PAT then punting would make sense as even without timeouts you can get into FG range for 55 yard attempt by getting 25-30 yards even with less than a minute left.

Andy Reid Punted with over 4 minutes to go in the KC/GB game earlier in the year. KC never got the ball back and kc had like 4th and 4 near mid field.

You take the shot to keep the game going. Maybe you could say that they should have called a timeout before the play. But going for it was the right decision IMO.

Regardless, whether they punted or went for it their D didn’t get a stop on D. Would still get the ball back with around 20 seconds to go in the game. Plus the final 2 runs the Hawks were careful with the ball.

Nah.

When you punt in that situation, you're putting the other team on a long field and you're telling your defense you trust them to go get the ball back. They come out charged up; maybe they don't get a 3 and out but the odds are much better they can make a stop when they have the offense backed up near their own end zone rather than the other side of midfield.

When you go for it in that situation, with 3 timeouts in hand and the two minute warning, you're telling your defense you don't trust them. And then when you don't make it, you're making them defend a short field. It's a total confidence killer.

And Reid made the right decision. Just because the defense gagged doesn't mean he was wrong.
 

Avs_19

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Nah.

When you punt in that situation, you're putting the other team on a long field and you're telling your defense you trust them to go get the ball back. They come out charged up; maybe they don't get a 3 and out but the odds are much better they can make a stop when they have the offense backed up near their own end zone rather than the other side of midfield.

When you go for it in that situation, with 3 timeouts in hand and the two minute warning, you're telling your defense you don't trust them. And then when you don't make it, you're making them defend a short field. It's a total confidence killer.

And Reid made the right decision. Just because the defense gagged doesn't mean he was wrong.

The Vikings defense gave up over 400 yards up to that point and the offense was actually having success. Maybe you'd think of punting if you're backed up but near midfield? Going for it was absolutely the right call. Only thing I'd change is maybe the play calling. Mix in a screen or something because they're obviously going to take Diggs away and is going to Treadwell and Irv is tough with the game on the line.
 

StreetHawk

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The Vikings defense gave up over 400 yards up to that point and the offense was actually having success. Maybe you'd think of punting if you're backed up but near midfield? Going for it was absolutely the right call. Only thing I'd change is maybe the play calling. Mix in a screen or something because they're obviously going to take Diggs away and is going to Treadwell and Irv is tough with the game on the line.
3 or 4 yards to pick up a first down, I’m going for it. It wasn’t 4th and 10.
 

GKJ

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Bears are still only 2 games back of the Vikings with a win over them
 

sigma six

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I actually still think the niners are the better team overall, but maybe SEA can be their kryptonite while maintaining a similar record.
Was really nice to see the refs not trying to showcase themselves for once.
 

JetsWillFly4Ever

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Vikings put up 30, lose.

Told y'all Cousins can't win a big game LOL PLAY SOME DEFENSE.

Christ, Cousins was not the problem in that game. Even his pick hit Diggs in the hands.
 

Bruins4Lifer

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Vikings put up 30, lose.

Told y'all Cousins can't win a big game LOL PLAY SOME DEFENSE.

Christ, Cousins was not the problem in that game. Even his pick hit Diggs in the hands.
And his previous interception (before he went 201 passes without a pick) hit Diggs right in the hands too.

Overall, Cousins played well last night and the Vikings defense let them down. They should still be able to make the playoffs but their defense isn't getting them anywhere.
 

StreetHawk

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Some scouts are about to lose their jobs.

Part of scouting is projecting how the player is going to fit within your system. Some corners are better in man vs zone and vice versa. OL schemes as well. That's why veterans who change teams generally tend to go to places who employ a former co-ordinator or position coach.

Not every QB is going to fit the system that you run.

Really just shows that coaches/management/scouts are stuck on their systems rather than making adjustments for really talented players.
 

Fish on The Sand

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Part of scouting is projecting how the player is going to fit within your system. Some corners are better in man vs zone and vice versa. OL schemes as well. That's why veterans who change teams generally tend to go to places who employ a former co-ordinator or position coach.

Not every QB is going to fit the system that you run.

Really just shows that coaches/management/scouts are stuck on their systems rather than making adjustments for really talented players.
Well, Baltimore's scheme was built around Flacco, who is Jackson's opposite in every possible way. I couldn't imagine two players more different.

Harbaugh and co did a tremendous job re-tooling their offence to Jackson's skillset.
 

GKJ

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When Jerry Jones fires Garrett, he should be all over Greg Roman.
 

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