Discussion in 'Chicago Blackhawks' started by DisgruntledHawkFan, Sep 26, 2018.
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Well, I wasn't going to post about Cutler, but....
Cutler was the best Bears QB in living memory of most fans posting here. Literal factual statement.
By the way, that's not a compliment. That's a statement of fact about akin to stating that I'm the strongest male in my household, which means I'm #1 over a five month old baby and a nine year old cat. Literal factual statement as well.
You're a character. I'll take Jim McMahon, but I'm older.
Cutler being the best QB in Bears history is winning the tallest midget contest.
That said, I really like what Pace has done with every aspect of the team other than QB. I have never been a fan of Trubisky and the acquisition cost. Ultimately if Mitch fails, it will cost Pace his job. The team has basically zero weaknesses other than depth in a few spots and QB. I have mixed feelings on the Mack trade because Trubisky isn't ready to win. That said, after Bosa who is going 1st next year there isn't much in terms of edge rusher in the 2019 class.
Fantastic thread title. And mea culpa.
If they could have gotten Mack without giving up that 2020 1st I'd be much more on board. If Mitch plays well and looks like a keeper in 2019 the 2020 1st doesn't matter much. The success or failure of the Mack trade is all riding on the right arm and brain of #10.
I disagree. The Bears ability to win a super bowl is riding on #10, but the Mack trade is a huge success already and will continue to be regardless.
Matt Nagy's postgame presser after the Cardinals game..."ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE WIN..."
Will Nagy hold himself accountable and bench the QB if it gives the team the best chance to get a "W" ???
I think that Mack alone isn't enough to get them into the Playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. If they fail to at the very least make a SB appearance it's a loss in my book. JMO.
Mack alone gets them from 4-6 wins to 7-9. I can't see them getting any further unless Mitch takes a huge step forward. Otherwise it is gonna be Lovie's Bears all over again.
Mitch means nothing in relation to the trade. Mack is worth a 2 mid 1st round picks all days including the days that don't end in Y.
Yeah, but if you have some horrible injury luck it could end up top 5 so we dont know. Put it in worst case Scenario form: is Mack worth a top 5 and a top 12 pick in your opinion?
Even moreso with Pace's first round track record...
I can't believe there's a poster complaining about the deal for Khalil freaking Mack. Unreal.
Or you could have great luck and make the playoffs. Talking hypotheticals is a waste of time.
You can't forecast injuries (White, he did not have injury issues in the past). I think Floyd and Smith are fine picks. Trubisky will be the one that defines Pace so far.
I'm not complaining, I'm saying that a lot rides on that 2020 pick.
You basically are though.
This next game is at home for a potential 3-1 start....
IF Mitch blows chunks again at home, he's gonna hear heavy Boo's and there WILL BE calls for him to get benched. Especially if the Bears lose a close game at home cause the offense can't score.
Key word: IF.
Everyone assumes that Trubisky will be competent enough to keep them out of the top 12 in 2020. I don't, and I think he could be bad enough that they pick there anyway. The 2019 1st doesn't matter because they were using it on an edge rusher anyway. When Mack was holding out, I was all for trading for him as long as it didn't cost 2 1st round picks. It cost 2 1st round picks. Don't get me wrong, it is still a decent trade, but that 2nd 1st is where it gets dicey.
You can complain about trading up one spot and giving up assets for Trubisky. Or even trading up for Floyd. I don't care.. but I would've gave up four 1st round picks for Mack and not thought twice about it.
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