LadyStanley
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WRT college facilities, how much $$ (and time) would be needed to bring locker room and other support services up to NFL standards? And who is paying for it?
NFL 18 game season? UPD 2021 planned for 17 games
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KevFu
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I was talking about this with some sports fans just yesterday -- and have multiple times brought it up.
The NFL has two 16-team conferences and routinely has division winners with worse ecords than teams that miss the playoffs.... the NFL should scrap divisions and play a round-robin conference schedule.
Currently, they do:
H/A vs Division (6)
1 vs another conference division (4)
1 vs non-conference division (4)
2 based on division finish from previous year: 1st place teams play 2 other 1st place teams; 4th place teams play 2 other 4th place teams, etc (2)
They could just do 15 vs conference, 1 vs designated rival, 1 vs non-conference team that finished the inverse of your designated rival and have a more fair competition, easy tie-breakers, everyone controls their own destiny, and every team is eligible for all their conference playoff spots instead of only their division crown and wild cards.
The NFL has two 16-team conferences and routinely has division winners with worse ecords than teams that miss the playoffs.... the NFL should scrap divisions and play a round-robin conference schedule.
Currently, they do:
H/A vs Division (6)
1 vs another conference division (4)
1 vs non-conference division (4)
2 based on division finish from previous year: 1st place teams play 2 other 1st place teams; 4th place teams play 2 other 4th place teams, etc (2)
They could just do 15 vs conference, 1 vs designated rival, 1 vs non-conference team that finished the inverse of your designated rival and have a more fair competition, easy tie-breakers, everyone controls their own destiny, and every team is eligible for all their conference playoff spots instead of only their division crown and wild cards.
The NFL wants every team to still have 8 each true home and road games because a 9/8 split either way would be unfair for the teams who have to play 9 road games.
8 of the 16 extra games would likely be played in London as part of the International Series.
1 game in Mexico City, also in the International Series.
The Bills could occasionally play a game in Toronto again (this time without removing a game from Bills Stadium), and the Seahawks in Vancouver, but in all likelihood these would be arranged by the teams themselves rather than as part of the International Series, since a Bills game in Toronto would feature a large amount of Bills fans, same with the Seahawks in Vancouver.
The NFL could additionally stage games in Latin America, Asia, Australia, and other European countries.
All extra games not played outside Anglo-America will likely be in the US or the appropriate Canadian city (Toronto for a Bills game, Vancouver for a Seahawks game).
Then there's the television arrangements for these games.
Neutral site games played in the United States could go in any of the regular broadcast packages.
Bills games in Toronto and Seahawks games in Vancouver would be on Sunday Night Football on NBC, these games taking place after the end of the CFL season.
International Series games played in Latin America would be part of ESPN's Monday Night Football package.
The broadcast rights to the remaining International Series games would be a separate package, in all likelihood aired on ABC. The network would air games from Europe at 9:30 AM ET on Sunday morning, which would be afternoon in Europe. Games played across the Pacific (like in China, Japan, or Australia) would kickoff on ABC at 10 PM ET Friday night, which would be Saturday afternoon in the game's location. The Friday night slot would be permissible for these games since they are not being played in the US.
So, the International Series could have every year:
8 games in London
1 game in another European city (rotates every year)
1 game in Mexico City
1 game in another Latin American city (rotates every year)
1 game in a country across the Pacific (host city rotates every year)
The remaining four neutral site games would be played in either Canada (arranged by the Bills or Seahawks) and/or the United States.
8 of the 16 extra games would likely be played in London as part of the International Series.
1 game in Mexico City, also in the International Series.
The Bills could occasionally play a game in Toronto again (this time without removing a game from Bills Stadium), and the Seahawks in Vancouver, but in all likelihood these would be arranged by the teams themselves rather than as part of the International Series, since a Bills game in Toronto would feature a large amount of Bills fans, same with the Seahawks in Vancouver.
The NFL could additionally stage games in Latin America, Asia, Australia, and other European countries.
All extra games not played outside Anglo-America will likely be in the US or the appropriate Canadian city (Toronto for a Bills game, Vancouver for a Seahawks game).
Then there's the television arrangements for these games.
Neutral site games played in the United States could go in any of the regular broadcast packages.
Bills games in Toronto and Seahawks games in Vancouver would be on Sunday Night Football on NBC, these games taking place after the end of the CFL season.
International Series games played in Latin America would be part of ESPN's Monday Night Football package.
The broadcast rights to the remaining International Series games would be a separate package, in all likelihood aired on ABC. The network would air games from Europe at 9:30 AM ET on Sunday morning, which would be afternoon in Europe. Games played across the Pacific (like in China, Japan, or Australia) would kickoff on ABC at 10 PM ET Friday night, which would be Saturday afternoon in the game's location. The Friday night slot would be permissible for these games since they are not being played in the US.
So, the International Series could have every year:
8 games in London
1 game in another European city (rotates every year)
1 game in Mexico City
1 game in another Latin American city (rotates every year)
1 game in a country across the Pacific (host city rotates every year)
The remaining four neutral site games would be played in either Canada (arranged by the Bills or Seahawks) and/or the United States.
The American neutral site games could involve teams playing at a nearby college stadium, which would be considered more of a novelty for these teams.
Like the Browns playing at OSU. or the Colts at ND.
And of the teams that could play a "home" game in Canada, there would be a three-year cycle for these teams:
Year 1: Bills at Toronto, Seahawks in International Series
Year 2: Seahawks at Vancouver, Bills in International Series
Year 3: Both teams play in US-based neutral site games
Like the Browns playing at OSU. or the Colts at ND.
And of the teams that could play a "home" game in Canada, there would be a three-year cycle for these teams:
Year 1: Bills at Toronto, Seahawks in International Series
Year 2: Seahawks at Vancouver, Bills in International Series
Year 3: Both teams play in US-based neutral site games
The NFL normally requires a stadium to seat at least 65,000 in order to host a game.
The easternmost European stadium in terms of time zones that could potentially host an NFL game is Baku Olympic Stadium in Baku, Azerbaijan, which is 8 hours ahead of NYC.
All games in Asian and Oceanian cities the NFL might be willing to stage games in would take place at 1 PM local time. On the East Coast of the US, these would be 10 PM, midnight, 1 AM or 3:30 AM kickoff times. ABC would air such games live, and then re-air them on tape delay Saturday morning at 9:30 AM ET.
The easternmost European stadium in terms of time zones that could potentially host an NFL game is Baku Olympic Stadium in Baku, Azerbaijan, which is 8 hours ahead of NYC.
All games in Asian and Oceanian cities the NFL might be willing to stage games in would take place at 1 PM local time. On the East Coast of the US, these would be 10 PM, midnight, 1 AM or 3:30 AM kickoff times. ABC would air such games live, and then re-air them on tape delay Saturday morning at 9:30 AM ET.
IU Hawks fan
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The Europa League Final in Baku was a complete disaster. Why would the NFL go there of all places?
And no way is the league putting games on overnight and alienating US based fans.
And no way is the league putting games on overnight and alienating US based fans.
IU Hawks fan
They call me IU
Too late to say that. The NFL staged preseason games in the early morning East Coast time that were played in primetime in Japan.
The NFL would allow games across the Pacific to be re-aired in a more convenient time in each time zone on Sunday morning (usually 9:30 AM local time)
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They call me IU
GindyDraws
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Most Americans can't find Azerbaijan on a map, let alone spell it. Why would anyone expect them to put a game in a place that fell on it's arse in the second biggest event in European club football?
If the NFL is doing games in Europe, it's England and maybe Germany. That's it.
NFL does NOT have to go to neutral sites games.
Just make the odd game interconference. Then each conference has the same distribution of home/road games.
Since Super Bowl is neutral site, even though one team is designated as the 'home' team, there is no rules advantage to playing as the home team (last change or something equivalent, like hockey), then it doesn't matter.
I expect this will be the result.
Just make the odd game interconference. Then each conference has the same distribution of home/road games.
Since Super Bowl is neutral site, even though one team is designated as the 'home' team, there is no rules advantage to playing as the home team (last change or something equivalent, like hockey), then it doesn't matter.
I expect this will be the result.
KevFu
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It's also not a big deal to have a 9/8 or 8/9 home and road split because they actually share revenue in the NFL.
Mickey Marner
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Why not just skip right to 18? Is it a fatigue/injury concern?
Two intra-division games, home & away.
One game against the rest of the conference, alternate home and away each year.
Two intra-division games, home & away.
One game against the rest of the conference, alternate home and away each year.
They don't share all revenue, especially premium seating. Thus, giving only half the league a ninth home game will be a hard no from the owners.
Plus, the possibility of neutral site games could allow the NFL to try and make amends to St. Louis by staging a neutral-site game there on occasion, with the Bears and Chiefs as possible participants.
BKIslandersFan
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France, Spain, Italy, Ireland are all possible. I don't see why its either or.
Notre Dame plays a game in Dublin every year.
Although the stadiums in Toronto and Vancouver don't seat at least 65K the NFL would probably make an exception to the capacity requirements for them to allow Bills games in Toronto and Seahawks games in Vancouver.
For other neutral-site games, the 65K capacity minimum would be enforced.
Here's a breakdown of how many non-NFL stadiums in each continent have at least 65K
College football venues in the United States: 29
Asia: 25
Europe: 25
Latin America: 8
Africa: 5
Australia: 3
Canada: 1 (Olympic Stadium in Montreal, could potentially host neutral site MNF game)
This doesn't necessarily mean that all of these venues will be considered by the NFL especially if they are put off by the "character" so to speak of a particular country.
For other neutral-site games, the 65K capacity minimum would be enforced.
Here's a breakdown of how many non-NFL stadiums in each continent have at least 65K
College football venues in the United States: 29
Asia: 25
Europe: 25
Latin America: 8
Africa: 5
Australia: 3
Canada: 1 (Olympic Stadium in Montreal, could potentially host neutral site MNF game)
This doesn't necessarily mean that all of these venues will be considered by the NFL especially if they are put off by the "character" so to speak of a particular country.
And given the success of the Battle at Bristol, the NFL could potentially stage neutral site games at motorsports venues, regardless of what country they are in, unless they are in the same market as an NFL team (which would rule out locations like Indy).
Some horse racing venues would also be considered, like Churchill Downs in Louisville, which could potentially host a game involving the nearby Bengals or Colts franchises (the latter would bring the team full circle, as when in Baltimore it was named after their original city's horse racing tradition, hosting the second leg of the Triple Crown, the Preakness Stakes; in contrast, Indy is an auto-racing hot bed), or possibly the Ravens because of the popularity of Lamar Jackson in the city.
Some horse racing venues would also be considered, like Churchill Downs in Louisville, which could potentially host a game involving the nearby Bengals or Colts franchises (the latter would bring the team full circle, as when in Baltimore it was named after their original city's horse racing tradition, hosting the second leg of the Triple Crown, the Preakness Stakes; in contrast, Indy is an auto-racing hot bed), or possibly the Ravens because of the popularity of Lamar Jackson in the city.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/16/nfl-17-game-schedule/
It would be very easy to add an addendum to the CBA indicating which non-conference game is the 17th, and specifying that all revenues from that game will be shared league wide.
It would be very easy to add an addendum to the CBA indicating which non-conference game is the 17th, and specifying that all revenues from that game will be shared league wide.
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GindyDraws
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France is iffy due to the fact that the French historically have been aversive towards American culture (rather bluntly; they don't want to see American football), and while Spain is an ideal location for economics, are any of the major football stadiums in Madrid or Catalonia up to modern NFL standards?
Similar issue with Ireland.
Having a game in an area would require us playing in a place that's not only big, but modern, since it's meant for television audiences. And in a location that is in a major market in Europe.
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