Speculation: Next season’s defence

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  1. MoontoScott Registered User

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    The team has needs for sure but I would say that Bouchard, Samorukov and Broberg are the nucleus of a defense that might be around for a decade so I would be very wary of trading any of these guys for a relatively short fix in goal.
     
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    Do we want to re-sign all three of Larsson, Barrie and Koekkoek?
     
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    Larsson maybe depending on what else happens. I would not rule him out as a third pairing RHD.

    Barrie will be too expensive. He is going to get a big deal.

    Koekkoek. Maybe. Depends on what happens with expansion draft, Samurokov and Broberg.
     
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    Larsson potentially. Barrie will be too expensive, and Koekkoek is already showing his warts, unless hes back as a 6/7 id move on.
     
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    You think the nucleus of the Oilers defense for the next decade is 2 guys who have never played an NHL game and another that has played a handful.

    Hockey Futures taken to the extreme.
     
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    It scares me because there were quite a few that had Jones as a top 4 d-man this year and he's having issues getting into the lineup.

    At least Bouchard is showing well, but it's still a stretch to know what he'll actually be for us.
     
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    I would say "extreme" are some of the solutions/trades to the goaltending problem that we see on the board. Nothing is for certain in the future but wrt the present the current Oiler defense has been inadequate and since we don't seem to do too well with FA's, these guys are the best bet.
     
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    If Klefbom is back next season then I would re-up Barrie.
    Klefa can just focus on defensive end and not get any PP time. 4.1M for a top 4Dman along with Bear making only making 2M would be a cheap but good D group.
     
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    Dislike what?
     
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    Pass on KK for sure.
    If Larsson asks for more than 2.5M per then walk away from him as well considering we have Russell signed already for next season.

    Nurse-Bear
    Klefbom-Barrie
    Lagesson/Jones-Bouchard
    Russell
    Jones/Lagesson claimed by Seattle?
    Samourkov

    Broberg starting in AHL.

    If Klefbom is a no go then 2nd pairing is wide open. The 2nd pairing LD would determine if we should keep Barrie around or not.
     
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    Your take. I think that Bouchard, Broberg, and Samurokov will definitely be part of the core defense in 2-3 years.

    EDIT: But I enjoy the discussion.
     
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    Would we be happy with a top 6 of:
    Nurse-Bouchard
    Samourkov-Barrie
    Broberg-Bear

    If not then should we be signing Barrie to a long term big money deal?
     
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    They might.

    Bouchard looks like he will definitely be an NHL player. But way too early to tell what his ceiling will be.

    The other 2 nobody knows yet. They look to be developing OK, but they have not face NHL competition, nor the drag of an NHL season. Bouchard hasn't done this either.

    You are wish-casting.
     
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    In two years yes. This would be good I would expect. Although I see Barrie gone, Bear on second pairing, and some other LHD. I would not rule out Klef just yet.
     
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    I am the wish- caster.
     
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    Gordon the mighty wish-castrator!
     
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    No no you spelled the name wrong

    not castrator
     
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    Oops ..typo! ;)
     
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    Koekkoek is waiver fodder. Once Lagesson is healthy, I'd prefer to not see him on the starting roster moving forward. The only thing keeping him on the roster is his ability to kill penalties.

    When it comes to Larsson or Barrie, it's far too early to make that decision. Klefbom's long-term health has a massive influence on how this defensive unit will look moving forward.
     
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    Like a lot of people I'm looking at

    Barrie
    Bear
    Bouchard

    and thinking that is not a smart way to construct the right side of the D group. If you're protecting a lead or taking a lot of D zone draws, which pairs are you putting out there? You need a couple pairs that can handle that and I think this right side puts the Oilers in a situation where they can't play low-event hockey when they want to.

    Ideally you get Larsson or similar D-man signed (<$4m), and hope that Bear can improve his defense (it wasn't very good last year). And then pick one of Bouchard or Barrie. If you can get Barrie signed to a reasonable deal around $5m per, and get a great return on Bouchard (package for Gibson :D), that would be lovely.

    It's great to have so many D prospects coming but the timing isn't great for the Oilers to break them in. I think one rookie per year out of your top six D is a reasonable amount. Anything beyond that and you are going to have them dragging on the team.

    Here's one concept:

    Nurse - Barrie
    Klefbom - Bear
    Samo/Bro/Lag - Larsson

    That gives you the option of running Nurse - Larsson and another decent defensive pairing when protecting leads.
     
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    Would be nice to see Hamilton next to Nurse on the right side
     
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    Ik it’s not the same level as the NHL, but don’t underestimate the KHL and SHL. They’re great leagues
     
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    Bear might be trade bait for an upgrade in net. Especially if Barrie might stick around.

    Nurse - Barrie
    Klefbom - Bouchard
    Broberg - Larsson (w/ pay cut)
    Koekoek

    Lagesson claimed by Seattle. Russell gets sent down.
     
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    No way you move Bear IMO. He's going to be a reliable middle-pair D for many years to come. I would sooner move on from Barrie than let Bear go as both Bear and Bouchard provide similar things and are cheaper and cost-controlled. Either way, you don't move a top4D for a goalie.
     
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