Messier won two Cups without Gretzky. Gretzky won zero cups without Messier. Jeebus, I despise saying anything remotely positive about manure #11.I compare them to Gretzky & Messier, Messier was considered one of the greatest leaders in sports, but Wayne was his Captain.
Horvat has more experience and speaks better English. EP has a tendency to get annoyed with dumb media questions. Let Bo handle media obligations while EP lights up the league. View attachment 256263
(Don’t want cr*p like this to happen again)
So because Bo isn’t physical therefore he isn’t captain material? Got itHorvat is softer than the Sedins. He works hard in the corners, I wouldn't say he is the type of soft player that just gets pushed off the puck, but he doesn't throw hits and he is not particularly chippy. I'm pretty sure in the Sedins' final year Daniel had more hits than Horvat. Pettersson has the will to be a bit chippy but he doesn't have the body to match.
Horvat in Pettersson's body would be a pretty similar player to what he is now, I think he would be big enough to still win puck battles and doesn't hit anyway. Pettersson in Horvat's body would be a machine.
The game has changed a lot since 2011. Even a marginally chippy player can be considered tough nowadays. Bo doesn't have to play like Stan Smyl for equal recognition as a tough player.Horvat is softer than the Sedins. He works hard in the corners, I wouldn't say he is the type of soft player that just gets pushed off the puck, but he doesn't throw hits and he is not particularly chippy. I'm pretty sure in the Sedins' final year Daniel had more hits than Horvat. Pettersson has the will to be a bit chippy but he doesn't have the body to match.
Horvat in Pettersson's body would be a pretty similar player to what he is now, I think he would be big enough to still win puck battles and doesn't hit anyway. Pettersson in Horvat's body would be a machine.
Yeah this is EXACTLY how I say it. Pettersson may become the face of the Canucks in that he's their best player and the player everyone pictures when they think of the Canucks, but Horvat is the face of the new era in a way. He was the first guy out of the entire new core to emerge and is leading the charge in that respect.Horvat was brought onto this ship when it was going under and has seen it rise out of the depths with a full head of steam. He's played on every line in every role and exceeded expectations the whole way through. He's the only young homegrown talent to have tasted the playoffs so far and he is the bridge between the Sedin era and the Pettersson era.
There's no other candidate in my eyes. Going with Pettersson would be a cop out PR move in my opinion.
So because Bo isn’t physical therefore he isn’t captain material? Got it
Referencing that video of Hank and Joe, it's just one example of why I hope Thornton retires without winning the Cup.Horvat has more experience and speaks better English. EP has a tendency to get annoyed with dumb media questions. Let Bo handle media obligations while EP lights up the league. View attachment 256263
(Don’t want cr*p like this to happen again)
Horvat is softer than the Sedins. He works hard in the corners, I wouldn't say he is the type of soft player that just gets pushed off the puck, but he doesn't throw hits and he is not particularly chippy. I'm pretty sure in the Sedins' final year Daniel had more hits than Horvat. Pettersson has the will to be a bit chippy but he doesn't have the body to match.
Horvat in Pettersson's body would be a pretty similar player to what he is now, I think he would be big enough to still win puck battles and doesn't hit anyway. Pettersson in Horvat's body would be a machine.
You may be on to something here. The guys who seem to be making such a big deal out of the captaincy are the media reps. It makes their job easier when somebody is willing to come out and face the music in the post-game scrum, particularly after a loss.In all of pro sports, I don't think there is anything anywhere near as irrelevant relative to the importance fans place on it as the captaincy of an NHL team.
In all of pro sports, I don't think there is anything anywhere near as irrelevant relative to the importance fans place on it as the captaincy of an NHL team.
In all of pro sports, I don't think there is anything anywhere near as irrelevant relative to the importance fans place on it as the captaincy of an NHL team.
I've been saying Pettersson for Captain since the summer... you want to name a Captain NOT for who the team is now but for who you want your team to be in 5 years. Horvat wants to be the best player he can be in the NHL, Petey wants to be THE best player in the NHL. I'll take Petey's drive/goals/competitiveness to lead this team over Horvat's please. Both are great and it's the best kind of 'problem' to have but one of these guys can lead us to a cup and bring the damn thing home and that's Petey.