News from Around the AHL/NHL/KHL 2018-19

[SI90]

Nothing but respect to Panarin. Now the ball is in CBJ court but they won’t be blindsided and can now plan accordingly.

 

[Critical13]

Did Tavares get PK time on the Islanders?

 

[Thrasymachus]

Did Tavares get PK time on the Islanders?

Yes he did.

Not an excellent PK'er but not a bad one either

 

[ScaredStreit]

At this point. I tend to agree with you. I have never seen a GM in all my years following the game that is so over hyped with the almost zero actual NHL accomplishments in his resume. I like how this negotiation has stretched out, Dumbas is probably sweating and regretting his we will sign all 3 bold proclamation earlier this summer. He painted himself into a position of lesser leverage where Nylander's agent is taking full advantage of. The Tray-Toor signing has made life difficult for the young inexperienced GM. Have to admit, this has been fun watching it unfold.

Agreed. You or I could have been the GM of Toronto and he'd sign with them...he was going there the whole time.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

I miss Hamonic as an Islander, hope he has a great year in CGY

 

[13th Floor]

Did Tavares get PK time on the Islanders?

He didn't at first, but then they started using him maybe 2-3 years ago. There was definitely an uptick in our PK when he started killing them regularly, largely due to winning face-offs (especially compared to many other centers we've had over the years) and his high hockey-IQ. He was able to sniff out plays and can be a real puck hound. But you also get the bad of Tavares as well, which is overextending his shifts, an inability to close down spaces quick enough because of his skating, and losing his man or not moving his feet to defend well enough. Great on the forecheck and for stealing pucks, but bad defensively in the slot.

 

[CupHolders]

He didn't at first, but then they started using him maybe 2-3 years ago. There was definitely an uptick in our PK when he start killing them regularly, largely due to winning face-offs (especially compared to many other centers we've had over the years) and his high hockey-IQ. He was able to sniff out plays and can be a real puck hound. But you also get the bad of Tavares as well, which is overextending his shifts, an inability to close down spaces quick enough because of his skating, and losing his man or not moving his feet to defend well enough. Great on the forecheck and for stealing pucks, but bad defensively in the slot.

Terrific, spot-on analysis. Tavares “defensive” strengths were primarily puck pursuit. But he was pretty bad at coverage. Especially, in the slot. He would occasionally puck watch, and lose his man.

Since signing in Toronto, the “Tavares as a great two-way player,” narrative just took off! Most of that seems to have originated by over reliance on possession stats and the Toronto media echo chamber.

 

[boredmale]

Terrific, spot-on analysis. Tavares “defensive” strengths were primarily puck pursuit. But he was pretty bad at coverage. Especially, in the slot. He would occasionally puck watch, and lose his man.

Since signing in Toronto, the “Tavares as a great two-way player,” narrative just took off! Most of that seems to have originated by over reliance on possession stats and the Toronto media echo chamber.

I have to guess any positive stats for Tavares defensively would factor in takeaways

 

[CREW99AW]

Nothing but respect to Panarin. Now the ball is in CBJ court but they won’t be blindsided and can now plan accordingly.

Looks like Columbus' GM is all in this season.
Gambling on winning the SC, knowing he likely loses his 2 best players by July 1st.
After the season ends, it will be so close to July 1st, that neither Panarin or Bob would have a reason not to go and test the market. Columbus won't get anything of value moving them at that point.

 

[SI90]

Looks like Columbus' GM is all in this season.
Gambling on winning the SC, knowing he likely loses his 2 best players by July 1st.
After the season ends, it will be so close to July 1st, that neither Panarin or Bob would have a reason not to go and test the market. Columbus won't get anything of value moving them at that point.

Yes but like I said, CBJ won’t be blindsided. They know exactly where they stand. If they decide to keep BOB and Panarin for a playoff run that’s fine. Should the season fall apart they may chose to move Panarin and/or BOB knowing both are most likely testing free agency.

If Tavares had done this, the hate would solely be on snow because Tavares would have been up front and honest. By Panarin telling CBJ he’s likely going to UFA he’s giving them enough time and a concrete answer for them to plan ahead.

 

[IslesNorway]

At least Panarin is honest. CBJ now have a choice and can trade him if they fall out of the playoff race or receive a spectacular offer. The ball is in their court.

 

[PK Cronin]

Griffin Reinhart on waivers.

 

[SI90]

Griffin Reinhart on waivers.

Insane. Top5 pick. I honestly thought at worst he’d be a #5-6 Defensman. This league has no place for slow Defensman. 10+ years ago he may have had a shot.

 

[PK Cronin]

Insane. Top5 pick. I honestly thought at worst he’d be a #5-6 Defensman. This league has no place for slow Defensman. 10+ years ago he may have had a shot.

I forgot he was even a part of Vegas, and I think they have injuries on defense and he still can't seem to make it. Didn't his dad come out and make comments about how he should be playing in the NHL? That's three teams that have buried him now. Rough for him.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Griffin Reinhart on waivers.

and the odyssey continues

say it with me boys

We got Matt Freakin Barzal AND change for Griffin Reinhart

I petition we start calling Barzal Raptor Jesus ala Rich Peverley

 

[SI90]

I forgot he was even a part of Vegas, and I think they have injuries on defense and he still can't seem to make it. Didn't his dad come out and make comments about how he should be playing in the NHL? That's three teams that have buried him now. Rough for him.

Once the oilers gave up on him, albeit the expansion draft I knew his chances were slim. Today’s game will eat you alive if your a Defensman with slow foot speed and below average skating.

 

[SI90]

and the odyssey continues

say it with me boys

We got Matt Freakin Barzal AND change for Griffin Reinhart

I petition we start calling Barzal Raptor Jesus ala Rich Peverley

Peter Chiareli might have saved the isles franchise. Imagine where we’d be with no Barzal after Pajam boy left? Yikes.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Peter Chiareli might have saved the isles franchise. Imagine where we’d be with no Barzal after Pajam boy left? Yikes.

I hate to say it but Garf has to be given some credit for the trade as well

He sucked but he had occasional moments of brilliancy such as the Barzal trade or the Leddy deal

Don't get me started on all the horrible mistakes he made.

 

[SI90]

I hate to say it but Garf has to be given some credit for the trade as well

He sucked but he had occasional moments of brilliancy such as the Barzal trade or the Leddy deal

Don't get me started on all the horrible mistakes he made.

Absolutely he deserves credit but from his vantage point it was an absolutely no brainer. Chia is the one who needed to make the way tougher decision and he made it and it was horrible. 30 out of 3o GMs would have made that trade from Garth’s chair. I don’t know if even 3 out of 30 GMs would have made that trade from Chia’s chair.

 

[BTrotts19]

Griffin Reinhart on waivers.

That trade will go down as one of the worst trades of all time, i know I'm greedy but would love to bend Chiarelli over one more time, even half as much as that deal.

 

[CREW99AW]

Yes but like I said, CBJ won’t be blindsided. They know exactly where they stand. If they decide to keep BOB and Panarin for a playoff run that’s fine. Should the season fall apart they may chose to move Panarin and/or BOB knowing both are most likely testing free agency.

If Tavares had done this, the hate would solely be on snow because Tavares would have been up front and honest. By Panarin telling CBJ he’s likely going to UFA he’s giving them enough time and a concrete answer for them to plan ahead.

Oh, I give Panarin and Bob both props for being upfront with Columbus management.

I think it's a tough call for their GM because they do have a talented roster. One capable of doing some damage in the postseason.

 

[CREW99AW]

Insane. Top5 pick. I honestly thought at worst he’d be a #5-6 Defensman. This league has no place for slow Defensman. 10+ years ago he may have had a shot.

When he was dealt from the isles, he made a comment that he had not thought his skating was an issue and would now be working on it.

Just a head scratching and out to lunch statement. He should have been working on his skating from the end of his first nyi training camp, where he had to go up against older nhlers, speedier nhlers.

 

[sabremike]

Does Sam call in a favor and get him a spot in Rochester (or Cincinnati)???

 

[danteipp]

With respect to the Panarin and Bob situations, as othera have said, at least the Columbus GM has options.

If Columbus looks like a legit, top-tier cup contender, then he probably goes all in. If they win, with the core they built, they might be able to sell themselves to other quality free agents and reload, even if Panarin walks.

If they don't look like true contenders, I think they look to swap Panarin for a comparable player (either with term or one they can sign) or some picks/prospects they can flip down the line for an established asset.

With respect to Bob, another playoff failure and I think they would look to move on from him anyway.

 

[BrockLobster]

Brian strait has found hinself on waivers as well.