New rule changes for 2019 and 2020

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Three-batter minimum for pitchers: Rule 5.10(g) will be amended to require that starting pitchers and relief pitchers must pitch to either a minimum of three batters or to the end of a half-inning, with exceptions for incapacitating injury or illness. This will effectively end the so-called “LOOGY” (left-handed one-out guy) and other specialist roles in which pitchers are brought in for one very specific matchup.

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BMOK33

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The three batter thing is just awful. We are gonna end up with numerous guys faking injuries, at least for awhile to see what they can get away with. Also it’s probably going to lead to guys leaning into pitches that are close. If you’re a lefty and a righty is behind you what incentive do you have to get out of the way of a pitch that is going to hit you below the ribs? I have a hunch this one ends up either never taking hold or not lasting. The MLBPA didn’t even agree to it. Evidently the league forced it despite the MLBPA not approving it
 

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the 3 batters thing is beyond stupid. all youre gonna do is waste more time.

the specialists aren't going anywhere, they're all just going to suddenly develop chronic blister problems.

the the pitcher has to do is call out the coach, say he has a blister, and he's out of the game due to injury. and with blisters you never have to mess with the DL either.

edit: also have eliminating the Seot call ups. they are a great way for teams to get a look at young guys in the majors while also limiting the load on their stars for the playoffs
 
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BMOK33

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the 3 batters thing is beyond stupid. all youre gonna do is waste more time.

the specialists aren't going anywhere, they're all just going to suddenly develop chronic blister problems.

the the pitcher has to do is call out the coach, say he has a blister, and he's out of the game due to injury. and with blisters you never have to mess with the DL either.

edit: also have eliminating the Seot call ups. they are a great way for teams to get a look at young guys in the majors while also limiting the load on their stars for the playoffs

Most of the players do not like September callups if the team is in contention. I guess you can say once a team is mathematically eliminated they can call guys up. I’ve heard though from many ex ball players that the September callups were a major distraction when you were in a playoff race and they generally didn’t like them being around. Keith Hernandez has been very vocal about this on Mets telecasts
 

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Some good changes here. I'm glad to see the 3 outs per pitcher rule, that caused to many play stoppages, 1 batter per pitcher.
 

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I can get on board with all of the rules except for the three batter per pitcher rule. It does also state that if a pitcher gets the third out in an inning then they can be replaced.

Get new pitcher in. Let’s say he walks the first batter. Just start to argue with the ump about the strike zone. Get intense. Start swearing. Voila, you get ejected. New pitcher.
 

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There is not going to be an epidemic of pitchers faking injuries or trying to get themselves thrown out of games. Left handed specialists would much rather have a chance to prove they can get right handed hitters out too. Pitchers don't want to come out of the game.
 

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There is not going to be an epidemic of pitchers faking injuries or trying to get themselves thrown out of games. Left handed specialists would much rather have a chance to prove they can get right handed hitters out too. Pitchers don't want to come out of the game.

I’m guessing it’s never going to happen. The MLBPA is the strongest union on the planet. I can’t see how they’re going to allow Manfred to bypass their vote and put this in. There will probably be some stop put to it next winter
 

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"man isn't baseball lit? with these new bullpen rules, mlb is gonna dab all over those other sports! finna low key f*** with all them haters and get them to look up from fortcraft or minenight to see what baseball got goin' on!"
 

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What the hell is Roberts gonna do now that he can't blow his whole bullpen in an inning (in 2020 that is)? Funny enough, this may actually end up hurting those specialist pitchers. Not surprised the MLBPA wasn't in approval.
 

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There is not going to be an epidemic of pitchers faking injuries or trying to get themselves thrown out of games. Left handed specialists would much rather have a chance to prove they can get right handed hitters out too. Pitchers don't want to come out of the game.

If the manager gives them the signal to fake an injury, do you really think they'll disobey?
 

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the 3 batters thing is beyond stupid. all youre gonna do is waste more time.

the specialists aren't going anywhere, they're all just going to suddenly develop chronic blister problems.

the the pitcher has to do is call out the coach, say he has a blister, and he's out of the game due to injury. and with blisters you never have to mess with the DL either.

edit: also have eliminating the Seot call ups. they are a great way for teams to get a look at young guys in the majors while also limiting the load on their stars for the playoffs
You've obviously never pitched or had a blister. Those things linger unless taken care of properly.
 
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With the rosters expanding there is no fatigue excuse for relievers, everyone will have 8 pen arms so 3 batters shouldn't be a problem. Mid inning pitching changes take over 3 minutes, annoy the hell out of me, and Im glad this rule will be in place. I am a huge baseball fan and I am in total support of all these rule changes. It would be nice to avoid an actual pitch clock though, but if it stops Pedro Baez from boring me I guess I'm for it. Love the decreased commercials for national tv games.

MLB is going in the right direction.
 
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Three-batter minimum for pitchers: Rule 5.10(g) will be amended to require that starting pitchers and relief pitchers must pitch to either a minimum of three batters or to the end of a half-inning, with exceptions for incapacitating injury or illness. This will effectively end the so-called “LOOGY” (left-handed one-out guy) and other specialist roles in which pitchers are brought in for one very specific matchup.

wtf is this ****
if you're only good enough to pitch to one guy you don't belong in the major leagues
 
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GIN ANTONIC

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3 batter minimum is dumb but I kind of like the idea of a 2 batter minimum. It would lead to some tough decisions and interesting potential (mis)matches.
 

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You've obviously never pitched or had a blister. Those things linger unless taken care of properly.

yeah, wrong on both counts. pitched through HS and had plenty of blisters.

there's a concept called reading comprehension...I clearly said pitchers will just F-A-K-E having a blister to get out of the game as that is an injury they let you leave for and dont expect to see you on the DL for.
 
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AtlantaWhaler

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3 batter minimum is terrible for more than a few reasons and needs to be stopped from happening.

How much time is that really saving anyway?

The innings where a team keeps changing pitchers is the worst. Warming up each arm on the mound and the commercial breaks...
 

robert terwilliger

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i don't like the idea of screwing with the rules to force strategy changes.

what's next, you can't alternate l-r-l in your lineup? you can only pinch hit twice in a game? only one defensive sub?

i get speeding up the game. i get limiting the parade of relievers. there has to be a way to limit relievers without forcing them to pitch longer than they're needed. getting rid of the l/roogy doesn't accomplish much to me. it makes the bullpen more of a chore for a manager now and might lead to guys becoming either injured or unavailable. what's to stop a team like the rays from gathering up a bunch of guys with options and a bunch of greyhound bus tickets and shuttling them back and forth based on usage? you pitched yesterday for 3 batters and 24 pitches. enjoy durham this time of year. see you in 10 days. that's what we're trying to stop, right?
 
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the 3 batters thing is beyond stupid. all youre gonna do is waste more time.

the specialists aren't going anywhere, they're all just going to suddenly develop chronic blister problems.

the the pitcher has to do is call out the coach, say he has a blister, and he's out of the game due to injury. and with blisters you never have to mess with the DL either.

edit: also have eliminating the Seot call ups. they are a great way for teams to get a look at young guys in the majors while also limiting the load on their stars for the playoffs
yeah, wrong on both counts. pitched through HS and had plenty of blisters.

there's a concept called reading comprehension...I clearly said pitchers will just F-A-K-E having a blister to get out of the game as that is an injury they let you leave for and dont expect to see you on the DL for.
"And with blisters you never have to mess with the DL." Might want to comprehend your own writing, guy.

As a Boston fan you should know that is false. Didn't Beckett spend half his stent there on the dl because of them?
 

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