Proposal: New Jersey-Colorado

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Avalanche receive:
LW Taylor Hall

Devils receive:
LD Nikita Zadorov
C Tyson Jost

I would imagine the Devils would be after Byram but the Avs are not going to trade him (and rightfully so)

NJ's biggest need right now is a LHD who can play solidly in his own zone yet still skate. Zadorov brings exactly that.

Colorado adds a game-breaking forward to give their lineup up front a lot more balance

what does everyone think?

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[RandomAvsFan]

I'd do it...

 

[Groo]

How can the Av's say no?

 

[Balthazar]

How can the Av's say no?

That's a high price for a rental.

 

[dahrougem2]

Absolutely not.

As much as I think Taylor Hall is a great player, Nikita Zadorov simply brings an element to this team that we do not have anywhere else. And he makes a damn big impact on the game defensively.

Also, I'm not keen on paying Taylor Hall the likely 10+ million dollars on what should be a long term contract to keep him here.

So, no. I wouldn't do this as an Avalanche fan.

 

[avsfan9]

If we add Taylor Hall we go from cup contenders to draft lottery winners in an instant and that is a proven fact.

 

[YP44]

That's a high price for a rental.

the scariest part is the Avs would have the space to re-sign him

 

[Muffin]

Absolutely not.

As much as I think Taylor Hall is a great player, Nikita Zadorov simply brings an element to this team that we do not have anywhere else. And he makes a damn big impact on the game defensively.

Also, I'm not keen on paying Taylor Hall the likely 10+ million dollars on what should be a long term contract to keep him here.

So, no. I wouldn't do this as an Avalanche fan.

I think Z is going to Seattle if he doesn't get traded anyways so this trade is a no brainer to me.

 

[Avs44]

Absolutely not.

As much as I think Taylor Hall is a great player, Nikita Zadorov simply brings an element to this team that we do not have anywhere else. And he makes a damn big impact on the game defensively.

Also, I'm not keen on paying Taylor Hall the likely 10+ million dollars on what should be a long term contract to keep him here.

So, no. I wouldn't do this as an Avalanche fan.

I think Z is important to keep around for this year considering how green the defence is, but I don't think he has a long-term future in an Avs uniform so...moving him in a deal like this? Earlier than I'd like, but easy yes. Girard already is a key cog on the left side and Byram should shortly become one (he'll probably have a full time roster spot next season, eased into a top four role). Z will become an expensive bottom pairing D shortly after on the Avs.

But agreed, not keen on paying Taylor Hall his next contract. A soon to be 28 year old who relies heavily on his physical gifts with some fairly significant prior injuries likely looking for a 7-8 year contract? That won't end well.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think Z is going to Seattle if he doesn't get traded anyways so this trade is a no brainer to me.

That's not a given. Trades can be made to ensure he stays with this team.

I think Z is important to keep around for this year considering how green the defence is, but I don't think he has a long-term future in an Avs uniform so...moving him in a deal like this? Earlier than I'd like, but easy yes. Girard already is a key cog on the left side and Byram should shortly become one (he'll probably have a full time roster spot next season, eased into a top four role). Z will become an expensive bottom pairing D shortly after on the Avs.

But agreed, not keen on paying Taylor Hall his next contract. A soon to be 28 year old who relies heavily on his physical gifts with some fairly significant prior injuries likely looking for a 7-8 year contract? That won't end well.

Girard is a key cog, yes. However, Bowen Byram looked nowhere near ready this season and he's playing junior once again. I'm not penciling him into the lineup whatsoever next season.

If anyone should be on the move, it's Ian Cole. I don't want to see what he looks like next season.

 

[ToDavid]

Avalanche receive:
LW Taylor Hall

Devils receive:
LD Nikita Zadorov
C Tyson Jost

I would imagine the Devils would be after Byram but the Avs are not going to trade him (and rightfully so)

NJ's biggest need right now is a LHD who can play solidly in his own zone yet still skate. Zadorov brings exactly that.

Colorado adds a game-breaking forward to give their lineup up front a lot more balance

what does everyone think?

A realistic Hall trade would be more like solid depth roster player, 1st, conditional 1st if he re-signs. Maybe some extra throw-ins.

 

[Avs44]

Girard is a key cog, yes. However, Bowen Byram looked nowhere near ready this season and he's playing junior once again. I'm not penciling him into the lineup whatsoever next season.

If anyone should be on the move, it's Ian Cole. I don't want to see what he looks like next season.

Should be and what will more than likely happen aren't the same thing, unfortunately. Not a Cole fan either (if someone has to go), but after a double hip surgery and an offseason long recovery, who do you think got more minutes yesterday, Cole or Z, in Cole's first game back? Cole. Sakic obviously likes him, since he went out and got him, and he clearly has Bednar's complete trust. Cole, last season, took over a lot of Z's role on the team and cut heavily into Z's minutes...and it looks like that might be restarting already. Coaches like their trusted vets, and Cole is one of those guys (even though he does some really stupid things, he's more predictable than Z). I'm pretty confident Cole won't be the odd guy out, it'll be Z, who had a contract holdout with the Avs a couple years ago and only signed a one year deal again this season. Still a couple more seasons of RFA control, but I think he's gone sooner than later.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

No thank you. The value is fine, obviously Taylor Hall is a phenomenal player, but I don't see his fit that other Avs fans do long term and will create cap hell if signed to long term.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

30 point game breaking forward? (and that's being nice and using his 82 game pace) This is atrocious for the Devils.

A realistic Hall trade would be more like solid depth roster player, 1st, conditional 1st if he re-signs. Maybe some extra throw-ins.

What are you talking about? Colorado is adding Taylor Hall in this trade, aka a game breaking forward.

I wish we could get 2 firsts and more for Hall but that isn't realistic. See the Stone trade last year.

 

[ToDavid]

What are you talking about? Colorado is adding Taylor Hall in this trade, aka a game breaking forward.

I wish we could get 2 firsts and more for Hall but that isn't realistic. See the Stone trade last year.

Wups, completely misread that to be Jost was the game breaking forward. My bad.

 

[Freudian]

Hard player to trade for since you have to pay through the nose to get him and then pay through the nose to keep him. Might be smarter to just wait until July 1st and see if he's there, if you like him as a UFA.

 

[Muffin]

Wups, completely misread that to be Jost was the game breaking forward. My bad.

I think something like Kaut + Rosen + 1st would be a fair deal. Rosen needs a chance to play in the NHL, he's too good for the AHL and just buried behind depth, he'll get to play in NJ.

 

[Balthazar]

Avalanche receive:
LW Taylor Hall

Devils receive:
LD Nikita Zadorov
C Tyson Jost

I would imagine the Devils would be after Byram but the Avs are not going to trade him (and rightfully so)

NJ's biggest need right now is a LHD who can play solidly in his own zone yet still skate. Zadorov brings exactly that.

Colorado adds a game-breaking forward to give their lineup up front a lot more balance

what does everyone think?

When a team trades for a rental they never give an important piece of the current roster back. They want to just add, not add and substract.

Zadorov is an important piece of the Avalanche roster at the moment.

Jost and a pick would be more realistic as Hall would simply replace Jost in the forward group.

 

[Papa Francouz]

I'd have to say yes from an Avs POV, but losing Zadorov is a big hit to both the locker room and the physicality of the roster.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

When a team trades for a rental they never give an important piece of the current roster back. They want to just add, not add and substract.

Zadorov is an important piece of the Avalanche roster at the moment.

Jost and a pick would be more realistic as Hall would simply replace Jost in the forward group.

that would be outbid IMO.

 

[Balthazar]

that would be outbid IMO.

Perhaps. You won't find a good LHD ready to jump in your lineup for rental Hall though so you better forget about this now.

 

[Ivan13]

No GM in his right mind would trade his 2nd best LHD when going for the Cup. Joe wants to add to the current team, not to hurt one aspect of the team to help the other.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Perhaps. You won't find a good LHD ready to jump in your lineup for rental Hall though so you better forget about this now.

I mean, thats fine but the Sens literally got a top LHD prospect like 6 months ago in a trade so

who is also now in their lineup

 

[bobholly39]

If we add Taylor Hall we go from cup contenders to draft lottery winners in an instant and that is a proven fact.

Lafreniere is worth it. You should do it.

 

[Balthazar]

I mean, thats fine but the Sens literally got a top LHD prospect like 6 months ago in a trade so

who is also now in their lineup

He wasn't playing in the NHL so Vegas didn't get weaker at the blue line by trading him. That's my point.