New Coyotes Top 20 prospects out

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  1. Dan

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    HF Coyotes Top 20 prospects by Jeff Dahlia

    1. Keith Ballard, D
    2004 trade with Colorado, 21, 5'11, 204
    2. David LeNeveu, G
    2nd Round, 46th 2002, 21, 6'1, 170
    3. Matt Jones, D
    3rd Round, 80th - 2002, 21, 6'1, 210
    4. Jakub Koreis, C
    1st Round, 19th 2002, 20, 6'2, 205
    5. Blake Wheeler, C
    1st Round, 5th - 2004, 17, 6'3, 185
    6. Tyler Redenbach, C
    3rd Round, 77th - 2003, 19, 5'11, 184
    7. Enver Lisin, RW
    2nd Round, 50th - 2004, 18, 6'1, 185
    8. Kiel McLeod, C
    Free Agent - 2003, 21, 6'5, 216
    9. Randall Gelech, LW
    7th Round, 208th - 2003, 20, 6'1, 195
    10. Joe Callahan, D
    3rd Round, 70th - 2002, 20, 6'2, 200
    11. Logan Stephenson, D
    2nd Round, 35th - 2004, 18, 6'2, 185
    12. Frantisek Lukes, LW
    8th Round, 243rd - 2001, 21, 5'10, 170
    13. Martin Podlesak, C
    2nd Round, 45th - 2001, 21, 6'6, 200
    14. Roman Tomanek, LW
    4th Round, 103rd - 2004, 18, 6'0, 175
    15. Sean Sullivan, D
    9th Round, 272nd - 2003, 22, 6'0", 190
    16. Beat Forster, D
    3rd Round, 78th - 2001, 21, 6'1, 209
    17. Lance Monych, RW
    4th Round, 97th - 2002, 20, 6'1, 200
    18. Igor Knyazev, D
    2003 trade with Carolina, 21, 6'1, 190
    19. Jason Jaspers, C
    3rd Round, 71st - 1999, 23, 6'0, 185
    20. Dmitri Pestunov, C
    3rd Round, 80th - 2003, 19, 5'9, 196

    Looking for some non-Coyote fan opinions on the new top 20. Anyone too high or too low in your opinion? Thanks
     
  2. Jason MacIsaac

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    Wheeler is 6`4....so I thought and I think he should be up one spot based on potential alone.
     
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    I gotta question Wheeler's spot.

    Sure it was a gigantic reach, but on potential alone he should be in the top 3 if you ask me.
     
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    I think if you are looking at #5 Wheeler vs #4 Koreis, the consensus is Wheeler has a higher ceiling. Koreis did not set the OHL on fire offensively, but he's a solid all-around forward. Koreis has great strength and was effective at parking in the slot on Guelph's PP. Based on his NA career so far, Koreis projects to be a physical checking center. While Wheeler as Wayne said, "We feel he [Wheeler] has tremendous upside and he's a tremendous athlete."
     
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    If Koreis is a better prospect than Wheeler right now (and I am not saying this is the case) then it would mean that was a godawful selection at 5th overall to take Blake.

    Koreis is unimpressive.

    I don't know much about Wheeler, though.

    Let's hope those ratings are wrong.
     
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    If he was picked in the 2nd round like he was supposed to be, the #5 he has on the list is already a reach.
     
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    Who said he was supposed to be a 2nd round pick? I don't deny 5th overall was a reach, but there's no way he lasts until the 2nd round.
     
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    IMO Wheeler should be #3.
     
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    I'd have to agree there.

    Koreis just never impressed me the times I saw Guelph play last year. He never really unimpressed me in particuliar, but he just didn't stand out. And for someone drafted as high as Koreis, that's what you look for.

    The Wheeler ranking definitely stood out for me as being a bit off when I saw the article.
     
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    Watched Koreis in the playoffs al last year, he was practically invisible.
     
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    I did not see the games like you, but the reports from the Guelph Mercury during the playoffs reported different. Coach Camp played him on the third line to utilize his defensive game and offer balance to the lineup. He did play on the first PP unit though. In the first series against Owen Sound, he had a hat trick in game two. And ended up with five points in the series. In the second round sweep of Plymouth, he had three assists. Against London, he played really well, getting three goals and three assists. In the OHL championship series, he had two goals and two assists, earning #1 star twice in the series. Not spectacular, but the majority of his minutes were on the third line against the other teams best players.
     
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    The latest he would have fallen would have been 31st, which techinically is the second round but barely.

    #5 was a reach, no doubt, but talentwise he probably is a top 5 pick.

    There's no way he should be lower than Koreis.
     
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    I have to question Knyazev at 18 also. He still has a LOT of potential with NHL size and such. I don't see how he could slip that far. It's not like he had a horrible season. From what I saw, he was actually pretty solid.
     
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    Wheeler was a high risk type pick IMO.Just like Kostitsyn IMO.Wheeler had good stats in a weak league but the guy is huge and has a lot of potential.He has a lot of upside.The coyotes didn't had a late first round pick and they wanted this guy a lot so they decided to pick him early.But he isn't gonna be in the NHL for like 3 years because he has to developpe and play in better league anyways ......

    That's a good ranking but I would put Wheeler at the place of Jones.The top 5 should be like that IMO.

    1. Keith Ballard, D
    2004 trade with Colorado, 21, 5'11, 204
    2. David LeNeveu, G
    2nd Round, 46th 2002, 21, 6'1, 170
    3. Blake Wheeler, C (TOO MUCH POTENTIAL)
    1st Round, 5th - 2004, 17, 6'3, 185
    4. Jakub Koreis, C
    1st Round, 19th 2002, 20, 6'2, 205
    5. Matt Jones, D
    3rd Round, 80th - 2002, 21, 6'1, 210

    Isn't this list making more sense ?!!?

    tgo
     
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    how about cormier who was drafted this year?
     
  16. Wheeler just needs time to develop. When he gets to the NHL level, he should be a solid player.
     
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    This is where I saw him most(Saw one game v London and 1 v Missy) and he killed us in game 2 and was invisible for the other 6.
     
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    He's not a top 20 prospect, but he could beat them all up. I'm interested to see how he does in Halifax under a very good junior coach.
     
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    Wheeler looked out of place at the us developmental camp last week and he wasnt the youngest player there.
     
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    Kessel was 16 i think and looked as good as everyone else IMO
     
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    Interesting, cause I heard that he was actually quite impressive. He looked raw, but he exhibited the skills and potential that got him drafted 5th overall.
     
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    Having four of these guys (Jones, Lisin, Monych, Knyazev) in my fantasy team's organisation, I find this very interesting. Is Jones really 15 spots better than Knyazev?

    Also, I have never before heard anyone praise Lisin's defensive game. ("He is a very responsible player who also helps out on defense.")
     
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    Mike Barnett on David LeNeveu:

    "With kids like them, we know we have the depth we didn't have last year. And there's one other kid I should mention: David Leveneu, who broke all of Ken Dryden's goalie records at Cornell. He was at our Springfield team, which was not a strong team. One night Marty McSorley, the coach there, called after the game and said, 'The score was 5-1 and we gave up 57 shots.' I said, 'Who got our goal?' And he laughed and said, 'No, we have the five. Our kid was unbelievable in goal.' "
    espn.com

    Great story.
     
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