New beer dispensing method to debut at Flyers game 1/25

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  1. LadyStanley

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    Over under for a magnet getting thrown on the ice: February 10th.
     
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    Crosby will go back in concussion when he will receive a magnet in the next Penguins game at PHI. :naughty:
     
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    There was a need to get Flyers fans drunk faster?
     
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    1st minute of the 1st game after the debut.
     
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    I'll take under. Magnets will fly during the warm-up.
     
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    It's not how fast they fill the beer. Its just that people take their sweet ass time to pay.
     
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    Great. Now the drunken ******s at all the stadiums can get there faster. Exactly what we need.
     
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    I was thinking this would be a joke about Flyers fans "dispensing" beer onto the visitors bench.
     
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    The way some of the beer vendors at Philips Arena are, you've got your money in your hand while you wait for them to deal with the foaming beer issue because they waited until the last minute to change the kegs and didn't give them time to settle. One of the last games I went to, the beer vendor poured out four cups of foam from the Yuengling keg and that's got to be about $15 worth of beer at arena prices

    Arenas do make a nice profit on beer. I don't know what the distributor price is on a keg, but I'm sure that at $7-8 a pop on 20-22oz beer, they're easily looking at a minimum of a few hundred dollars in profit off a keg even after factoring in equipment costs and salaries for that booth. Then again, there's no telling how much wasted product cuts into the profitability of a keg. Machines like this new dispenser does look like they cut down on waste and spillage since the operator sets the cups on the dispenser and the product is automatically filled. According to the company who makes this dispensing device, it also is a labor saver, so it potentially allows a venue to cut down on the number of concession workers needed.

    I'm curious to see if this sort of dispenser is capable of handling a more labor-intensive draft like Guinness, as to pour a proper pint of it requires a two-stage pour.
     
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    Considering that the average college party charges $5 for a cup and you drink as much as you want and these kids are making a nice profit off that, I'd imagine that $7-$8 per cup off a keg is netting them huge profits, even if you factor in a half dozen wasted pours per keg.

    Most distributors claim their kegs hold ~109 22oz cups of beer. That's an incredibly optimistic number. Most kegs hold 15.5 gallons and since a gallon is 128oz that means realistically a keg holds 90 22oz cups of beer. On the low end we'll say each 22oz cup is $7 and on the high end we'll say we waste 5 of these cups worth per keg for whatever reasons. That means the conservative gross income estimate per keg is probably around $595. A quick Google search tells me the average price of a keg of beer is $85 retail (probably less directly from a distributor). So conservatively they are making around $500 per keg of beer sold (not factoring in labor or facility costs). If he use the most optimistic numbers (109 cups per keg, $8 per cup, no more than 2 cups per keg wasted) the gross income number is $856. Even if a keg costs $100 of more you are still looking at a crazy profit margin. Figure anywhere from $500-$800 per keg net profit. Even more if you use 20oz beers (or less) instead of 22oz.
     
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    I know that at Philips Arena, the "premium" beers (Guinness, Bass, Newcastle, Stella Artois, Sweetwater 420 [local craft brew]) are served in a 20oz cup and go for around $8 a cup.

    I'm sure the profit margins on liquor are just as huge. Each shot, even with a top shelf liquor, probably costs them no more than $1.50 and they sell them for $8-9/shot.
     
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    The waste is a lot higher than that. Our local minor league arena uses volunteers from local non-profits to staff their stands, in exchange for a donation of a percent of sales. I volunteer for one of those groups.

    For the fixed location stands they have a central cooler down on ice level for all the kegs, and hoses run the length of the building to each stand. When we arrive to work an event we have to drain the hoses of all the beer that has been sitting in them between events. That's a half gallon to a gallon per tap - six taps per stand - five stands in the arena. (Its a little more beer for the Coors Light, a little less for the Yuengling or Moosehead, darker beers don't absorb the taste of the plastic tubing as much) That's for a keg that was already in use - when they tap a new keg they sometimes use a five gallon bucket to get rid of the foam.

    I'm sure the profit is gigantic all the same, so much so that management doesn't really care about wasting beer. They are fanatical about the cups (that is what they count for inventory to match up with sales, and they have to be inventoried after every event), but as a worker you could pour a keg of beer down the drain and no one would care, or even notice)
     

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