Player Discussion Neal Pionk

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  1. Rangers in 7

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    holy moly @The Mouth take a chill pill...the whole team has been horrible and pionk has been the least of our problems on the back end
     
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    Please stop comparing this guy to stralman, Pionk’s been a meh defender on the worst defensive team in the NHL. Certainly has some skill but has far from put it all together.
     
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    Honestly can you link me to your radio show
     
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    I don't think anyone really expects any D man to put it all together in his first year in the league, he only came up about, what, a month ago, maybe 3 months tops?
     
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    Pionk's a first year pro. He's done pretty damn well. Not a lock but I think he'll contend for full time next year. Actually like him better than DeAngelo right now.
     
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    Sounds like you have a pretty good scam going on. Best of luck.
     
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    I love how Pionk has horrendous analytics and we still get blamed for people hyping him up.
     
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    So corny.
     
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    Wait...you sound like you're implying that you called that and no one else did...but every1 was livid at that pick so y on earth would you bring that up in this context?

    Also it seems like you're looking for an example of how you know more than everyone...you had to reach back 8 YEARS and use an example where there was an almost universal consensus? If this is how you talk about hockey on your show it must suck. Does the name of your patreon donor say "mom" or "gam gam"?
     
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    I said this a week or so ago but I just dont' see it. the kid had a great game against Vancouver but otherwise he's not good. he bleeds shots against. he fights hard but he is very small for the game he plays. he's only 22 so he's got some time to develop but I don't see it. maybe a 6 or 7? some steve kampfer in him? next year smith will be back I fully expect that along with shattenkirk. rangers will have to pick between Gilmour and pionk is what I'm guessing as hajek probably needs a year In the minors.

    skjei deangelo
    staal shattenkirk
    smith Gilmour/pionk

    now hajek could surprise us and make the team. that would push smith back to the right side and both Gilmour and pionk out maybe smith moves back to play with skjei. regardless the lack of a top d pairing will be our biggest weakness for a while. I think skjei could be a number 2 dman I do. but we certainly don't have a 1. and you need one to win a Cup. where that guy comes from I don't know. one of my biggest concerns with dealing mcdonagh is guys like him don't grow on trees.
     
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    Y'all are reading way too much into a small sample size when he's playing on the worst team in hockey at the moment. He's a 22 year old kid that went from college, 50 games of AHL experience, and now top-4 responsibilities. This is also the most hockey he's ever played in a year. If he starts being so poor next year, then we can complain.
     
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    Pionk could not shine Stralman's shoes right now, that's for certain(yes, rookie, yadda yadda yadda), and I feel like it's a safe bet that he will never be on Stralman's level. Some are definitely going over the top in this thread.
     
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    Hey guys noticed that this kid has 6 apples in his first 16 NHL games playing over 20 mins a game with an even +-, but this thread doesn’t seem stoked on him. What gives? What’s his long term upside?
     
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    I'd say his upside is as a #4 jitterbug. 2nd PK unit, 2nd PP unit.

    More realistically he can be a decent bottom pairing guy. I think if NYR flesh out the D core a bit he and Staal would make an okay 3rd pairing moving forward. Anything more than that from them and they'll have problems.

    The whole defense has looked awful, Pionk I think is the one young guy on the roster right now that will do just fine in a sheltered role next year.
     
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    God help this board when even more young talent comes up and goes through the refinement process.
     
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    What has ADA done to put himself ahead of Pionk or even Gilmour? Do you judge your D based on how many spinorama's a D can pull off? If so remember Pionk also has Tony beat on the most memorable one of those. Pionk is given the harder defensive minutes, he's paired with Staal, and he's outproducing ADA who's getting pp time and much more ozone draws. You mention the great game from Pionk in Vancouver, could you reference a great game by Ada? I'd like to go back a rewatch one of those, cause I don't recall any yet. ADA still has as much to prove as any of the young D and he's no longer the only young D with NHL playing time so he won't get the benefit again. So if anything Ada, Pionk, Gilmour and maybe one of the surprises at camp like Hajek will have to earn that spot if Smith, Shatty, Staal and Skjei are the first 4.
     
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    It`s based on raw talent and draft position @Matz03 - I don`t mind to ship DeAngelo as soon as possible when he is healthy in the summer window. :)
     
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    If he is in every game here on out, he's at 76 games this season between the AHL/NHL. Blows away anything he did in college. He's been fine, especially being thrown into the fire. Probably should still be in the AHL at this point.

    Look forward to see him come into camp refreshed and having a better idea of what to expect with the number of games he has to play.
     
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    He played a fantastic game tonight. He seems to be getting better and better as the games go on which is great, I definitely see him in our lineup next season.
     
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    He had a really strong game tonight. That sequence against Letang was really impressive. Showed a lot of poise and good skating ability.

    This idea that rookies aren't allowed to come up and struggle is ridiculous. This team is going to be rebuilding, get used to it. They're going to make their mistakes and have their struggles.
     
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    He played 26 minutes tonight.
     
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