NBA Equivalents To NHL Players

[Aladyyn]

Lebron/Crosby
Both were highly touted prospects with national exposure long before they turned pro. Both selected 1st overall. Both are considered the best player of their generation

LeBron's freakish durability vs Crosby missing a large chunk of his prime due to injuries tho

 

[Neutrinos]

LeBron's freakish durability vs Crosby missing a large chunk of his prime due to injuries tho

No comparison is going to be exact

Jordan/Chamberlain vs Gretzky, for example

Jordan and Chamberlain were able to dominate because they were world class athletes, Gretzky dominated because of his high hockey IQ

 

[Aladyyn]

No comparison is going to be exact

Jordan/Chamberlain vs Gretzky, for example

Jordan and Chamberlain were able to dominate because they were world class athlete, Gretzky dominated because of his high hockey IQ

Chamberlain's "dominance" is a complete sham. Teams with Wilt as the 1st option had an above average offense exactly once. And that was 4th best in a 9 team league.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Kawhi Leonard ------> Patrice Bergeron: Two of the best defensive players in their games ever, who became very potent offensive contributors.

Carmelo Anthony -----> Dany Heatley: Two very talented scorers who weren't quite leaders or guys who could be the best player on a championship team, fell off cliffs in early 30's and became role players.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Jason white chocolate Williams ------------> Alex Kovalev. Two very entertaining flashy players who were good, and very good at points in their career but never as valuable and good as their highlight reels made you think.

 

[Neutrinos]

Chamberlain's "dominance" is a complete sham. Teams with Wilt as the 1st option had an above average offense exactly once. And that was 4th best in a 9 team league.

If a team's offense is below average, you don't blame the guy averaging 35+ points per game on 55% shooting

 

[Aladyyn]

If a team's offense is below average, you don't blame the guy averaging 35+ points per game on 55% shooting

And that's why after Chamberlain dropped from 25 FGA per game to 14 FGA per game his team went from 6th in ORtg to 1st in ORtg, from 55 wins to 68 wins, and from winning 1 playoff game to winning the title despite basically unchanged roster.

 

[HisIceness]

Elias Petterson has the Allen Iverson crossover nailed down.

 

[Neutrinos]

And that's why after Chamberlain dropped from 25 FGA per game to 14 FGA per game his team went from 6th in ORtg to 1st in ORtg, from 55 wins to 68 wins, and from winning 1 playoff game to winning the title despite basically unchanged roster.

This doesn't seem like a topic worth discussing, but it just comes down to simple mathematics

A team has to hit a certain number of shots in order to win. It doesn't matter who makes those shots

 

[Aladyyn]

This doesn't seem like a topic worth discussing, but it just comes down to simple mathematics

A team has to hit a certain number of shots in order to win. It doesn't matter who makes those shots

"Pass it to Wilt who either shoots the ball or struggles to get free and throws a shitty pass to a teammate who doesn't have the time to get a good look" is not a winning strategy. As I said, there's a reason he never won anything when he was putting up his amazing numbers.

Individual scoring doesn't matter, offensive impact does. That's why Steve Nash ran the best offense in the league for a decade straight.

 

[Neutrinos]

Erving/LaFleur

Flashy, high scoring wings who dominated during the 70's

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Manute Bol’s equivalent? Please don’t say Chara.

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Gretzky/Jordan
Duncan/Crosby - good intangibles leaders of multiple champion teams (could go Lidstrom/Duncan as well)
Lebron/Lemieux - Lebron is bigger than Jordan like Lemieux is bigger than Gretzky
Kareem/Howe - Both known for longevity
Carmelo/Kovalchuk - Great players but not as good as players like Lebron and Ovechkin, and leaving something to be desired in terms of fully reaching it. Their comebacks this year are nearly identical.
Russell/Beliveau - not perfect but probably the best you can do for Russell

 

[Neutrinos]

Gretzky/Jordan
Duncan/Crosby - good intangibles leaders of multiple champion teams (could go Lidstrom/Duncan as well)
Lebron/Lemieux - Lebron is bigger than Jordan like Lemieux is bigger than Gretzky
Kareem/Howe - Both known for longevity
Carmelo/Kovalchuk - Great players but not as good as players like Lebron and Ovechkin, and leaving something to be desired in terms of fully reaching it. Their comebacks this year are nearly identical.
Russell/Beliveau - not perfect but probably the best you can do for Russell

I like the Anthony/Kovalchuk comparison

 

[Hockeyholic]

Gretzky/Jordan
Duncan/Crosby - good intangibles leaders of multiple champion teams (could go Lidstrom/Duncan as well)
Lebron/Lemieux - Lebron is bigger than Jordan like Lemieux is bigger than Gretzky
Kareem/Howe - Both known for longevity
Carmelo/Kovalchuk - Great players but not as good as players like Lebron and Ovechkin, and leaving something to be desired in terms of fully reaching it. Their comebacks this year are nearly identical.
Russell/Beliveau - not perfect but probably the best you can do for Russell

Bigger in size? Popularity?

 

[frisco]

Jagr/Lemieux = Kobe/Shaq?

Steve Nash/Dominik Hasek. Unorthodox guys who were given up by their original teams. Late bloomers won MVP's against tough competition.

My Best-Carey

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Bigger in size? Popularity?

Size

 

[scott clam]

I had been toying with the idea of creating this thread for a while now, and with the recent bump of the Jordan vs Gretzky thread, I thought it might be a good time for it


So who are some NBA equivalents to NHL players?


Shaq/Lindros
Talented big men who dominated when healthy, though both their careers leave a lot to be desired.

in terms of dominance, prime Shaq is closer to Lemieux than Lindros. Actually he was even more unstoppable than either of them.

Most people have Shaq around 9th all time in his sport, and Lemieux 4th in his, but the amount of seperation from GOAT status is about the same for each of them. Or to put it another way, it's more obvious who the GOAT of Hockey is than it is Basketball.

 

[scott clam]

Chamberlain's "dominance" is a complete sham. Teams with Wilt as the 1st option had an above average offense exactly once. And that was 4th best in a 9 team league.

Chamberlain always had above average shooting percentage, and the more he shared the ball the higher it got. And the more he shared the ball, the higher his teammates percentages were. It just wasn't until he went to the sixers, that he had a coach who was smart enough to realize such a concept.

 

[Neutrinos]

in terms of dominance, prime Shaq is closer to Lemieux than Lindros. Actually he was even more unstoppable than either of them.

Most people have Shaq around 9th all time in his sport, and Lemieux 4th in his, but the amount of seperation from GOAT status is about the same for each of them. Or to put it another way, it's more obvious who the GOAT of Hockey is than it is Basketball.

Lindros was dominant though

Averaged 1.36 points per game in 486 games with the Flyers. + 188 during that stretch as well

A 1.36 PPG average would've been good for 5th all-time had he retired after leaving Philly

 

[scott clam]

Lindros was dominant though

Averaged 1.36 points per game in 486 games with the Flyers. + 188 during that stretch as well

A 1.36 PPG average would've been good for 5th all-time had he retired after leaving Philly

Lindros was dominant, but a total bust when it mattered most, in the '97 finals. Shaq's 2000 finals might have been the most dominant finals in Basketball history.

Shaq also didn't really start to have an injury problem until he was in his 30s.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

stastny, savard, hawerchuk

king, dominique, drexler

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Jason white chocolate Williams ------------> Alex Kovalev. Two very entertaining flashy players who were good, and very good at points in their career but never as valuable and good as their highlight reels made you think.

I think Kovalev was a lot better player than Jason Williams who was mediocre in reality. Could almost go Kovalev-Vince Carter.

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Manute Bol’s equivalent? Please don’t say Chara.

Bol is closer to Huge Speciman than Chara in terms of ability (Bol did have a career though)

 

[scott clam]

Chara is looking more and more like Manute Bol each day. He's just fortunate he gets a tree for a stick.