Friedman: Nate Schmidt arbitration numbers

[mcpw]

2 years now might be cheaper than 1 + 1 year.
Schmidt will definitely get plenty TOI to prove himself.

Good point.

 

[Riptide]

Schmidt could take 1 + 1 year which would take him to UFA too. He might not want to stay longer than 2 years.

Sure he could. But that doesn't change his trade value. Him having a 1yr contract where he's still an RFA is more valuable to another team then him having a 2 yr deal where he's a FA at the end of it.

 

[Riptide]

McPhee doesn't really have a choice here. If Schmidt wants to reach UFA status, it's going to happen either way. On a one year deal, Schmidt simply elects arbitration again next off-season.

GM has all the power to choose this. Sure he can't control whether Schmidt wants to stay and whether he goes to arbitration again next summer... But from a pure value POV, NS on a 1 yr deal where he's still an RFA trumps NS on a 2 yr deal where he becomes a UFA. And if NS does go to arb again next summer, so be it - deal with it then. Because unless he has an absolute killer season, he won't be getting a ton.

 

[airbus220]

Sure he could. But that doesn't change his trade value. Him having a 1yr contract where he's still an RFA is more valuable to another team then him having a 2 yr deal where he's a FA at the end of it.

Vegas might try to keep Schmidt and then 2 years are cheaper.
It seems Vegas is a budget team and won't spend to the cap, so money might be important to them.

 

[Holtbyisms]

He wants to come back to DC.

 

[airbus220]

He wants to come back to DC.

For the rebuild? I doubt that.

 

[10Ducky10]

If the player files for arbitration, the team picks whether it is a 1 or 2 year deal.
If the team files for arbitration, the players picks whether it is a 1 or two year deal.

 

[airbus220]

If the team files for arbitration, the players picks whether it is a 1 or two year deal.

I thought it could only be 2 years for team elected arbitration.
See Bernier in TOR who signed before the award but the talk was always only about 2 years.

 

[Riptide]

If the player files for arbitration, the team picks whether it is a 1 or 2 year deal.
If the team files for arbitration, the players picks whether it is a 1 or two year deal.

Correct - assuming the player has 2 RFA years left. If he only has 1 RFA year left, he can only get a 1 yr award.

I thought it could only be 2 years for team elected arbitration.
See Bernier in TOR who signed before the award but the talk was always only about 2 years.

Nope. If the player chooses to go to arb, the team gets to choose the term. If the team takes the player to arb, the player chooses the term.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Oh, GMGM...

 

[Riptide]

Vegas might try to keep Schmidt and then 2 years are cheaper.
It seems Vegas is a budget team and won't spend to the cap, so money might be important to them.

Which would be the exact opposite of everything said and done by GM.

If they're looking to keep NS, giving him a contract that takes him to FA certainly isn't the way to do it. Now he won't have to decide anything for 2 years, and then can base any decision on what LV and other teams will give him. Had they giving him a 1 yr deal, he would have had a yr to get used to LV, the team, the coach and all that... then they could have tried to sign him to a longer term contract, without having to bid against other teams.

With this contract, I bet he doesn't even finish it in LV. And if he somehow does that he doesn't sign an extension there.

 

[TML1967]

Any way Nate gets moved? i could see a few team who are "going for it" that would love to get a top4 capable guy for 2x2.5ish on their 3rd pair who can play up the lineup if there are any major injuries.

Edit: I could also see a team willing to move multiple pieces for him where it includes moving out more salary.

 

[mouser]

If the player files for arbitration, the team picks whether it is a 1 or 2 year deal.
If the team files for arbitration, the players picks whether it is a 1 or two year deal.

With the caveat that neither can select 2 years if the player is scheduled to be a UFA in 1 year.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Any way Nate gets moved? i could see a few team who are "going for it" that would love to get a top4 capable guy for 2x2.5ish on their 3rd pair who can play up the lineup if there are any major injuries.

Edit: I could also see a team willing to move multiple pieces for him where it includes moving out more salary.

If it's a two year deal I could see him being moved at next years deadline. Possibly this year if the price is right. Vegas lacks good defence, even though they'll likely be tanking its smart to keep a few decent guys around

 

[rent free]

trade him back to wsh for brooks orpik, 2018 1st and 2018 3rd

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Any way Nate gets moved? i could see a few team who are "going for it" that would love to get a top4 capable guy for 2x2.5ish on their 3rd pair who can play up the lineup if there are any major injuries.

Edit: I could also see a team willing to move multiple pieces for him where it includes moving out more salary.

Really depends on how the management feels about chances of him staying moving forward. At this point it's impossible to say, the players haven't even played a single game for Vegas.

For example, some guys might be skeptical now but end up loving it in Vegas and if they play well those are the guys you want to try to keep.

But let's say Schmidt plays well in the 1st half, GMGM starts negotiations about a contract extension and it doesn't really go anywhere, he might just end up trading him at the deadline.

 

[me2]

Sure he could. But that doesn't change his trade value. Him having a 1yr contract where he's still an RFA is more valuable to another team then him having a 2 yr deal where he's a FA at the end of it.

But if he plays top 2/4 minutes and puts up any half decent numbers/holds his own they will be able to sell him as a top 4 D on a bargain contract (ie $2m). Vegas might get more value through that 2 year cheap deal than pumping up and trying to trade him as a 1 year RFA left looking for $4m+ long term deal/arbitration risk.