Ditto, I was in the boat of 'ugh!' but he not as worthless as his reputation. The 4th line is going to be a glass box of mixed emotions. I can see Watson-Sissons-Rinaldo as a pain in the ass 4th line but 2/3rd of it makes me want to cringe. Though, I have a philosophy of the box sitters are part of the 4th line too so I have to include Salomaki...
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