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The only downside is the freshmen and sophomores can't go to the bars
the vandy bars are 5 min from the arena.
The only downside is the freshmen and sophomores can't go to the bars
There was an interview with the Preds new CEO(formerly with the Lightning and Stars), and he basically said that getting Tampa the frozen four was his project, beginning in about 2002.
This isn't really just a statement he's making, like, "we'd like to do this," there's already planning and a roadmap being set out for how to do it and when it will happen. They plan to make their first formal pitch to the NCAA in the fall, with a target of getting the 2015 or 16 tournament. Henry said that it's a matter of when rather than if, and something they won't back down on.
some of the US hockey conferences are weird. Main issue is that outside of the NE, not many schools have top hockey programs, so the traditional football/bball conferences dont really work.
Of the stranger things:
Why is USAF in the atlantic?
Why is alaska in the CCHA?
ECAC makes sense, basically the Ivy League + some liberty league teams and some other private schools with good hockey programs.
Hockey East also makes sense, and it has two big east teams.
WCHA is wierd. You'd think fairbanks and USAF would just join them, and let MTU and OSU go to the CCHA.
and then there is alabama-huntsville, the only southern college hockey program.
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Not 1 of the regular conferences has hockey.
I'll try to answer some of the questions here. USAF is in Atlantic hockey mainly because West Point is (Army). Also their rink doesn't fit what the WCHA is looking at and they (along with Army) are in a
bit of a jam as (of course) They can't recruit canadians. Alaska-Faorbanks is in the CCHA is because if both Alaska schools were in the same league travel budgets would be blown through the roof. Michigan Tech is in the WCHA because they were a founding member of the league and after leaving for 3 years in the mid 80's missed all of their original rivals. OSU is in the WCHA as a WOMENS only member because there is no CCHA for women Hope this answers some of the league questions in US college hockey.
not being a fan of us college hockey, this is actually very helpful. Thanks.
I'll also join the chorus of those who agree. It'd be sweet if Nashville go it. I also have to say I think it'd be cool if a city like Nashville or Atlanta put in a bid to host the World Juniors for 2018.
and Sweden isn't?
There is a strong captive audience for the Frozen Four - college hockey fans, and people who went to the schools involved. If Minnesota gets in the Frozen Four, half the state is going.
What is the captive audience in the United States for WJC? It just doesn't seem like a lot of Americans are interested in the WJC compared to college hockey. Attendances in Boston in 1996 were pretty poor, meaning USA Hockey is going to be loath to host a tournament away from the border.
most of the schools in the south have club teams at this point, some even division 2, most are division 3. I'm sure a hockey SEC will happen at some point in my lifetime
I'll try to answer some of the questions here. USAF is in Atlantic hockey mainly because West Point is (Army). Also their rink doesn't fit what the WCHA is looking at and they (along with Army) are in a bit of a jam as (of course) They can't recruit canadians. Alaska-Fairbanks is in the CCHA is because if both Alaska schools were in the same league travel budgets would be blown through the roof. Michigan Tech is in the WCHA because they were a founding member of the league and after leaving for 3 years in the mid 80's missed all of their original rivals. OSU is in the WCHA as a WOMENS only member because there is no CCHA for women Hope this answers some of the league questions in US college hockey.
I think not being able to recruit Canadians isn't their major problem. It would be the fact that they have to commit to the Army or Air Force more so. So they don't get the top US talent coming there. The majority of championship teams recently have been around at least 75-80% American born players. I believe that Minnesota won in 2003 with only Tomas Vanek from Austria and one player from Canada plus one from North Dakota, the rest were all Minnesota born. Schools with less tradition and hockey base have to get more of their players from Canada and generally the elite Canadian talent goes to bigger schools like Wisconsin(Heatley), North Dakota(Toews), Michigan State(Duncan Keith) or Michigan(Cammalleri). Many of the other schools have less local talent to draw from so those schools end up with more Canadians who are good but not necessarily elite players. Now many of these players develop in their time in college to be great players like Martin St. Louis(Vermont) for example.
A few of these have been touched on, but I'll give it a shot.some of the US hockey conferences are weird. Main issue is that outside of the NE, not many schools have top hockey programs, so the traditional football/bball conferences dont really work.
Of the stranger things:
Why is USAF in the atlantic?
Why is alaska in the CCHA?
ECAC makes sense, basically the Ivy League + some liberty league teams and some other private schools with good hockey programs.
Hockey East also makes sense, and it has two big east teams.
WCHA is wierd. You'd think fairbanks and USAF would just join them, and let MTU and OSU go to the CCHA.
and then there is alabama-huntsville, the only southern college hockey program.
Other than Minnesota and the two service academies, most schools are made up of a combination of Americans and Canadians.I think not being able to recruit Canadians isn't their major problem. It would be the fact that they have to commit to the Army or Air Force more so. So they don't get the top US talent coming there. The majority of championship teams recently have been around at least 75-80% American born players. I believe that Minnesota won in 2003 with only Tomas Vanek from Austria and one player from Canada plus one from North Dakota, the rest were all Minnesota born. Schools with less tradition and hockey base have to get more of their players from Canada and generally the elite Canadian talent goes to bigger schools like Wisconsin(Heatley), North Dakota(Toews), Michigan State(Duncan Keith) or Michigan(Cammalleri). Many of the other schools have less local talent to draw from so those schools end up with more Canadians who are good but not necessarily elite players. Now many of these players develop in their time in college to be great players like Martin St. Louis(Vermont) for example.
A few of these have been touched on, but I'll give it a shot.
-The two service academies are together due to rivalry reasons and the fact that Atlantic Hockey (a league which has limited scholarships) gives them both a chance to be competitive as their recruiting pool is limited.
-The two Alaska schools are split for budget reasons and the fact that it lets more schools get an extra two games (there's a NCAA rule which lets teams who play in Alaska or Hawaii get an extra set of games).
-Hockey East is a league which broke away from the ECAC twenty-five years ago due to academic and playing concerns (The Ivies have their own rules). U Conn didn't have a D1 team then which is why the Huskies are in Atlantic Hockey despite playing the Big East.
-OSU is in the CCHA for men's hockey and besides history (the Huskies own the regular season trophy), Michigan Tech (which is situated in the UP of Michigan) is closer to Minneapolis than it is to Detroit. They make up for it by playing their rival Northern Michigan twice a year and Michigan and MSU in a Christmas tournament in Detroit every year.
Other than Minnesota and the two service academies, most schools are made up of a combination of Americans and Canadians.
It's a matter of open scholarships. The US will PAY students to get a college degree and play hockey. Canada won't that's why I want the CIS to join the NCAA and DII. I would like to see Canada get into the scholarship system.
D2 does not have hockey in the NCAA. All hokey schools are either D1 or D3. Any school that plays in D3 does not offer scholarships. Now here is where it gets complex with D1. When the NCAA went to the division structure there were several schools who went the D3 route BUT played D1 in one sport. The NCAA grandfathered these schools in so they ARE allowed to offer scholarships in that sport only. Now any D3 school that wants to move their hockey program up is allowed to do so but CANNOT offer scholarships IF their athletic department remains in D3 for all other sports. A number of D1 hockey schools are D2 in all other sports but play hockey in D1. The NCAA does allow a school to play up in ONE sport(but not football or basketball) as those are the major money makers. Thats why (to use an example) St. Cloud State a D2 school in all other sports plays in the WCHA, a major D1 hockey only league.
Too far away from Canada.
It's 650 miles from Nashville to Toronto--100 miles less than the distance between Calgary and Winnipeg.