Nash, Bergeron and Bouchard ...

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Les Zarbites, Nov 24, 2003.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Les Zarbites

    Les Zarbites Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    En tounoi avec Theo? Bonn chan!
    Home Page:
    I was listening to an interview in french with Blair XXXX (didn't hear his last name) who is the main scout for team Canada U20's team and he said they were talking with a lot of NHL teams in order to get their under 20 canadian players but he seemed really negative about Horton, Staal. And he said that Bergeron, Nash and Bouchard would not be there. And that they were currently talking with Minnesota and Pittsburgh for Burns and Fleury.
     
  2. dem

    dem Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Messages:
    4,781
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    146
    I think its going to be more and more common that teams will not release their nhl player to play. Staal is much too important to his team.

    Horton I think should probably go... but i doubt he will be released
     
  3. andora

    andora Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2002
    Messages:
    16,069
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Illuminating Prince
    this is where i'll chime in with calling some gms greedy.. i understand keeping nash, as he's vital to that club and maclean really wants a playoff push..
    i also understand bergeron, who's been phenominal on boston, a playoff bound team...

    but guys like horton, staal, fleury, burns (not playing much) should be let go.. easily, their teams aren't exactly challenging, (burns b/c he isn't playing much)

    just let the kids go, the pens aren't likely to make a 15 game run at the time of the world juniors, same with carolina and florida...
     
  4. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2002
    Messages:
    34,121
    Likes Received:
    2,171
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male

    But you have to think of the owners as well. They are in it to make money, and they do that by selling tickets. What do they care if Canada or the USA or Russia gains by loaning a star player of theirs?
     
  5. andora

    andora Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2002
    Messages:
    16,069
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Illuminating Prince
    see my first sentence... change gm to owner.. but it's all the same point
     
  6. PecaFan

    PecaFan Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2002
    Messages:
    8,938
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Location:
    Ottawa (Go 'Nucks)
    Home Page:
    And the fans are suddenly going to stop going to the game because Staal or Horton aren't there? I don't think so.

    Personally, I think they're nuts for holding these guys back. Send 'em to the World Juniors, let them experience a championship type atmosphere, it's only going to serve them well when high pressure games come along in the playoffs.

    For guys like Nash, yes it's understandable why you wouldn't release them. But for most, they're not key players in their lineups.
     
  7. ceber

    ceber Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2003
    Messages:
    3,500
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Wyoming, MN
    Burns has been a healthy scratch twice (I think) this season. He was out with a shoulder injury for several games. That said, I think he should go. He's already on pace to play more games than Bouchard did last year, but I think it would still be nice to let him go. It was good for Bouchard last year, but he was only in a little more than half the games. This year, Bouchard's looking to be a more important member of the team, so I'm not surprised he won't be going. 'Course, Burns is one of the few bright spots for the Wild this season, so I could see the team wanting to keep him.
     
  8. Sticky*

    Sticky* Guest

    I don't know what you're talking about Staal not playing much, but he is getting a ton of ice time. Saw him play in Buffalo on Fri nite and he played a lot, and looked good in a 5-0 loss to the Sabres.
     
  9. Jacob

    Jacob Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    42,552
    Likes Received:
    3,770
    Trophy Points:
    235
    Home Page:
    I think that as long as a player is getting a good amount of ice time, they will learn more from 7 NHL games than from 7 world junior games.
     
  10. Hockeycrazed07

    Hockeycrazed07 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2002
    Messages:
    2,361
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Disturber of Feces.
    Location:
    Buena Vista, VA
    Home Page:
    Why would a fan pay to see an owner or GM be anything but greedy?

    "Oh, I don't want to win a Cup, so let's deal Forsberg and Sakic and Hejduk, because the other teams deserve to win once in a while, too."

    What you're suggesting is stupid. NO owner or GM can afford to be lax with his time, because you're paying them to win every game, and they must put out the best team to do so on a nightly basis. Just because a team like Florida or Carolina isn't thinking about winning a Cup changes absolutely nothing. They are paid to win every night, and the least we can expect of them is to ice the best team possible, which means guys like Horton and Staal will play either way.

    ~Crazed.
     
  11. tom_servo

    tom_servo Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2002
    Messages:
    13,945
    Likes Received:
    398
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Home Page:
    Fleury would probably stand to lose about $4 million if released, so don't think he would be overjoyed to be back in juniors.
     
  12. Porn*

    Porn* Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2002
    Messages:
    36,420
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    171
    Occupation:
    Scheming demon
    Location:
    In your nightmares

    all i have to say is injuries. WHy risk it???
     
  13. Sammy*

    Sammy* Guest

    they are more likely to ge injured playing against men than they are playing against a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"