My son asked me about the Memorial Cup...
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landy92mack29
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fairly sure the team the host team would beat in the finals is the 4th team that makes it.
KingsFanInRI
Waiting 4 next year
Makes sense, and if you had twisted my arm for an answer that's what I would have probably said. thanks.
Raimu
That weird Dragon girl
I think the last time this happened was 2006 when the host Moncton Wildcats beat Quebec in 7 games in the QMJHL final, Quebec and Moncton both advanced to the Memorial Cup.
The last time the Memorial Cup was held in London this exact scenario took place. The Knights won the OHL over Ottawa and the 67's took part in the 2005 tournament as the OHL Representative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Memorial_Cup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Memorial_Cup
It also happened in 2008. Kitchener Rangers defeated the Belleville Bulls in the Final. Both teams were in Kitchener for the Memorial Cup.
CantHaveTkachev
Legends
kinda happened in 2007...Medicine Hat and Vancouver in WHL final and since Vancouver was hosting the Memorial Cup, both team were through...
Medicine Hat ended up winning the Championship while Vancouver won the Memorial Cup
Medicine Hat ended up winning the Championship while Vancouver won the Memorial Cup
Taoiseach
Go Hull Go!
CharlieGirl
Thank you Mr. Snider
Not really. When the host wins their league championship the runner up attends and plays the league schedule. Otherwise, it's the host and the actual league champions.
Otto
Lynch Syndrome. Know your families cancer history
Maybe you should elaborate. The question was in regards to the Memorial Cup Host. The Memorial Cup is a tournament comprised of the three Champions of the Major Junior Leagues in Canada (OHL, QMJHL, WHL) And one host city is also selected and plays in the tournament. In the event that the host city wins it's league title the team they beat in the finals plays in the tournament.
Regular Junior A, B, or C teams do not compete for the Memorial Cup
Dude the Qmjhl ohl and whl is Junior Hockey. lol I know I played 3 years in the Q.
And I believe I said major junior.
all junior hosts get a buy to finial tourney. even junior C
Otto
Lynch Syndrome. Know your families cancer history
You are missing the point of the question. Everyone here knows the host team gets a bye to the Championship Tournament, in Major Junior, Junior A, B and C. That is not what the question was.
The host team and then the league champs compete. The question was:
What if the host team wins their league? Who goes in that case?
Understand now?
Taoiseach
Go Hull Go!
Let's say St-Jérôme had have won the LHJAAAQ championship over, oh, I don't know, Sherbrooke. The Fred Page Cup would have been played in St-Jérôme between Carleton Place, Truro, St-Jérôme, and Sherbrooke by virtue of being the LHJAAAQ runners up.
If Arnprior wins the EOJHL championship next year, the EOJHL runners up will also be ging to the Don Johnson Cup by virtue of having lost to the host team in the final.
FWIW, the OHA Jr C championship isn't a lame tournament, and the NCJHL champion doesn't go on to any other championship, so this doesn't apply to Ontario Junior C.
Otto
Lynch Syndrome. Know your families cancer history
So... not the Memorial Cup... which is what the original question was about. Also, it doesn't address the post by HFX902 that says the host gets an automatic berth in the tournament. In actuality, it's the league winner.. which is the same for any league
JB51Hockey
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Taoiseach
Go Hull Go!
HFX902, correctly, pointed out that the host gets an automatic berth into all of these junior tournaments, at all levels - Major, A/AAA, B/AA, and C/A. For example, Saskatoon was swept in the first round by Medicine Hat last year, and still played in the Memorial Cup. Any team with any amount of dignity would have bowed out after that (comme Les Saguenéens et Les Harfangs in 1988 and 1991 respectively), but that's another matter.
The league winner gets a berth, and the host gets a berth. If the host is also the league champion, the league runners up go as the 'league representative' and play the league champion's schedule.
Otto do you even know what your talking about? Do you know why the host team gets a buy in the first place? and the Memorial cup is Junior Hockey...... Same rules apply. that's what we are trying to explain.
The hosts team wins the league all the time. some where in junior hockey this happens every year.. they just send the 2nd overall place team. from the hosts division. So if London was to win the OHL this year they would have sent the runner up. easy.
Otto
Lynch Syndrome. Know your families cancer history
I understand completely what the Memorial Cup is and it's format. I just don't understand you
Shootmaster_44
Registered User
Ok, let me answer the question without the bickering. If the host team wins their league, the runner up gets in. This is the same for the Memorial Cup in the CHL which is Major Junior, the RBC Cup in the CJHL, which is Junior A (and the Western Canada Cup, which is the SJHL/AJHL/BCHL/MJHL qualifier to the RBC Cup), the Keystone Cup which is the Western Canadian Junior B championship. Heck, even the CIS University Cup works this way (unless they are a conference in which they already have two slots, then the third place team gets in, but I believe going forward the CIS eliminated this rule.)
Even in international hockey, the host gets in. I believe a few years ago one of the European hosts was relegated, but were allowed to stay up as they were the hosts.
This is all done to help guarantee ticket sales. If the Blades (who footed the bill for the tournament) had bowed out, Saskatoon wouldn't have bought packages for the tournament. You may not like this from a competitive standpoint, but this is necessary to entice fans to buy tickets. Very, very few sports events sell large quantities of tickets without a local team participating. The only ones I can think of are the Grey Cup and the Super Bowl.
Even in international hockey, the host gets in. I believe a few years ago one of the European hosts was relegated, but were allowed to stay up as they were the hosts.
This is all done to help guarantee ticket sales. If the Blades (who footed the bill for the tournament) had bowed out, Saskatoon wouldn't have bought packages for the tournament. You may not like this from a competitive standpoint, but this is necessary to entice fans to buy tickets. Very, very few sports events sell large quantities of tickets without a local team participating. The only ones I can think of are the Grey Cup and the Super Bowl.
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