Discussion in 'The History of Hockey' started by RECsGuy*, Mar 21, 2011.
Personally, I'd pick Bossy. Am I wrong? Who's your choice?
I would pick Trottier because he is good in everything: goalscoring, playmaking and defense.
But it is close. Potvin? Bossy? I can see points for all of them.
Trottier for me but I thought about Potvin too.
Of Bossy's many eye-popping stats, this one might be the most astounding.
When trottier was injured, bossy didn't miss a beat. When potvin was injured, the offensive ability of the entire team decreased. Also, potvin was elite defensively and their captain. I think he was probably their most important piece.
As much as I'm floored by Bossy's 3 years in a row with 17 playoff goals, Potvin was a player that stirred the drink. IMO he's also the 2nd best defenseman that I've seen with Orr being the best player ever. There was a fear factor playing against him that Bourque, Lidstrom and Park didn't have.
Gotta mention JT as my favorite though.
I've gotta go with Potvin as well, he was such a dominant force.
I'd also go Potvin but Smith deserves a ton of credit. Any goaltender who goes through four straight Stanley Cup Playoffs to win Championships then gets to a fifth straight is pretty damn valuable to his team. The '83 shutdown of the Oilers, along with the acting job on Anderson, was impressive.
Potvin is my pick even though out of the "big 4" on the Islanders he was the only one not to win a Conn Smythe. He had a year or two where he could have however.
It's really a tough choice because you have an elite sniper who scored many back breaking goals, an elite two way center, almost a perfect all around defenseman and a clutch goalie who made some big saves in overtime elimination games while the drive was alive.
You still have to pick Potvin though in my mind. The word "glue" immediately comes to mind when I think of him.
It was likely Potvin, but my (possibly less informed) memories say Trottier.
Potvin , not even close in my opinion.
I also picked Bossy.
What a pure goal scorer.
Bossy killed the Flyers, but for me its definitely Potvin.
Also Al Albour could be argued as 4th ahead of Billy Smith, but certainly no worse than 5th. Top 5 all-time coach.
....I'll stick by my post in that thread.
Nothing has happened in the last three years to make me change my mind.
Damn right it's Potvin.
"Potvin Sucks" is one half of the 2 best shutdown/punishing Dmen ever IMO.
If I don't take Scott Stevens, I take Potvin.
Bossy was one of the best hockey players ever, highly underrated in any "Top __" list....but Billy Smith can only truly thank him for goal support.
I recall an interview with Kevin Lowe where he said that the first time the Oilers met the Islanders in the playoffs, Potvin was the guy they feared. They respected the rest of the team, but Potvin was the guy that made them cautious carrying the puck over the blueline.
So much so, that, the next year, Messier made a point of running Potvin as often as possible to deflate his mystique.
I think when you're able to make the Edmonton Oilers think twice about playing run-and-gun hockey, you're the MVP, no matter what.
Trottier, but Potvin is close.
Potvin easily, he was their anchor.
...and if you did a follow up with Mark on who came out worse for wear in those confrontations, I doubt he says Potvin.
Messier was dirtier but not tougher and definitely not meaner.
A lot of Potvin's meanness has been glossed over during the years but the truth is Denis makes Scott Stevens look like a poodle to a rotty most nights.
haha, I wouldn't go that far, I mean Stevens was one tough SOB who scared the tail off of the opponents too. Another legendary story is how players didn't like cutting across the ice on his side. But yes, Potvin was tougher and meaner in my opinion. Something that didn't show up on the scoresheet although Potvin's "scoresheet" was incredible to start with.
You didn't see Messier dropping 'em with the Probert's but Potvin sure as hell dropped 'em with Schlultz's.
Granted, the Stevens comparison was a lil light, maybe a German Sheppard to a Rotty
I actually do remember Messier fighting McSorley... I dont think you can underestimate how far Mess would go to win
Messier-Potvin was an epic clash, either way
Either way, Mess-Potvin
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