Dreger: Muzzin and the Leafs getting close to an extension

[FerrisRox]

Wow somebody as anti Leaf as you giving out a compliment.

Shocking

I'm not anti-Leaf at all. I'd love to see the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.

I am anti-Dubas, because I think he has blown the best opportunity for the Leafs to ice a championship team in my lifetime. But just because I think he's bungled things doesn't mean I'm anti-Leafs. I'm born and raised in Toronto and find them entertaining to watch the last few years thanks to some high end talent. But I don't think they have a snowballs chance in hell to win with the way the team is constructed and I find it really frustrating.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I'm not anti-Leaf at all. I'd love to see the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.

I am anti-Dubas, because I think he has blown the best opportunity for the Leafs to ice a championship team in my lifetime. But just because I think he's bungled things doesn't mean I'm anti-Leafs. I'm born and raised in Toronto and find them entertaining to watch the last few years thanks to some high end talent. But I don't think they have a snowballs chance in hell to win with the way the team is constructed and I find it really frustrating.

How did he bungle things up? He's spent the better part of two years trying to clean up Lou's mistakes with Martin/Zaitsev/Marleau. Once this summer hits we can actually start to evaluate him properly.

 

[Advanced stats]

I'm not anti-Leaf at all. I'd love to see the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.

I am anti-Dubas, because I think he has blown the best opportunity for the Leafs to ice a championship team in my lifetime. But just because I think he's bungled things doesn't mean I'm anti-Leafs. I'm born and raised in Toronto and find them entertaining to watch the last few years thanks to some high end talent. But I don't think they have a snowballs chance in hell to win with the way the team is constructed and I find it really frustrating.

Honestly I think he's building an incredible team. Very well rounded. If we had gotten league average goaltending all year we'd be up there with Tampa and Boston.

Finally adding some grit in the past year with Clifford, Muzzin and some gritty prospects now is the touch we needed

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

How did he bungle things up? He's spent the better part of two years trying to clean up Lou's mistakes with Martin/Zaitsev/Marleau. Once this summer hits we can actually start to evaluate him properly.

his drafting has been elite as well. Sandin and Robertson were phenomenal picks.

 

[FerrisRox]

How did he bungle things up? He's spent the better part of two years trying to clean up Lou's mistakes with Martin/Zaitsev/Marleau. Once this summer hits we can actually start to evaluate him properly.

This isn't the place to get into it, but my thoughts on this have been well documented.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

How did he bungle things up? He's spent

Oh he's definitely spent. Right to the cap on those ridiculous contracts.

 

[deeb]

A 31 year old Muzzin is the type of player you thank for his services and let go. Heavy and heavy-footed players like him don't age well at all.

Leafs have good cheap young guys on the left side anyway.

That are worse than Muzzin on an already decrepit defense?

I'm sure that will end well for the laughs....

Hint: look at the blue lines of teams that have won anything as of late.

 

[deeb]

Matthews is an overpayment but not a "gross overpayment". The same way Panarin is an overpayment.

At most those guys are making ~$2 mill too much but Matthew's or Panarin at $9.5M would be great contracts and nobody would complain. Both of them should be around $10.5M

John Toews is a gross overpayment

Splitting hairs.

Add up all the overpayments on the roster and that's a good start to fixing the defense.

 

[93gilmour93]

You know standings change daily, right?

I see he went pointless in last nights loss...

Yup and he's still top 10

 

[hmc1987]

Splitting hairs.

Add up all the overpayments on the roster and that's a good start to fixing the defense.

Matthews and Marner are the only overpayments and both are only ~$1-1.5M overpaid.

Tavares is overpaid NOW but when he signed the contract TML were desperate. And Tavares is a good captain and leader...still a PPG player.

Funniest part is that Nylander has a great contract.

If TML want to get better...trade Marner for 2 defenseman. Can get an excellent prospect and NHL ready Top 4 player and probably some picks.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Why is it allowed to just shit on the team? This thread is about Muzzin deal last I checked, and last 3 pages are about how shitty of a team they are, how bad the GM is, and how their players are all going to leave in UFA.

 

[NCoRe]

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be deal close to 5x5. While I dont like it, its also a deal which is tolerable..

 

[justafan22]

Dregers says its 4 x around 5.5 with frontloaded money and some no trade protection

 

[Michoulicious]

Dregers says its 4 x around 5.5 with frontloaded money and some no trade protection

Most people said 5,5-6 M x 4 y. They were not wrong! That Matthews window is the key.

 

[Warden of the North]

Anything more then a total of 24m isnt going to be good.

Im gonna dislike this deal

If the updated 4x5.5 is what it ends up as, I guess im ok with it?

 

[Lemontree]

Trade him on Monday if that rumoured deal is on the table. 4 years is a bad idea. Hard miles on him and not fleet of foot to start with. If Dubas wants to continue with the puck possession approach he says he wants.....Muzzin is not the player for that system.

 

[CupInSIX]

Did Dreger get another scoop on the Leafs?

Anyway, great contract for Muzzin. Very team friendly when he could have held out for 5-6 years. It's good to see these contracts not go past 34 years of age.

 

[Fatass]

If the updated 4x5.5 is what it ends up as, I guess im ok with it?

Market value. Very fair deal.

 

[Warden of the North]

Market value. Very fair deal.

The term is acceptable, which is what I was really fearful of.

 

[13pacheco31]

Trade him on Monday if that rumoured deal is on the table. 4 years is a bad idea. Hard miles on him and not fleet of foot to start with. If Dubas wants to continue with the puck possession approach he says he wants.....Muzzin is not the player for that system.

4 years is fine

 

[Merrrlin]

Nice job Dubas, Muzz has been a rock.

 

[Team Cozens]

Muzzin is a solid #2 defenseman. Would easily get Myers’ contract on the market. No one is signing him for 3x$4.5.

Maybe 3 x $4.9 but I don’t see it happening.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

I HIGHLY doubt he gets 7 years Matthews and Marner didn't even get 7 years

to be fair I don’t think either of those guys WANTED 7 year deals, Star players that are as young as they are are smarter to target deals with lesser term to maximize their net income over the course of their career

 

[Empoleon8771]

4 years at $5.5 million AAV is right where Muzzin should be at, so that seems really believable. There was no way he was going to come in at less than $5 million on his extension.