Confirmed Trade: [MTL/STL] Montreal acquires Jake Allen, a 2022 7th from St. Louis for 2020 3rd, 7th

[Scintillating10]

That would be quite the coup and shrewd movement by Bergevin, but I don't see Pietrangelo signing in Montreal because his friend is there one season.

Well, his best friend and Montreal can find 10 million other reasons.

 

[President Skroob]

Well, his best friend and Montreal can find 10 million other reasons.

Yeah....that’s not going to happen.

 

[Scintillating10]

Yeah....that’s not going to happen.

If St.Louis tries to lowball Pietrangelo maybe opportunity for Montreal? Habs have tons of cash and caproom.

 

[TK 421]

If St.Louis tries to lowball Pietrangelo maybe opportunity for Montreal? Habs have tons of cash and caproom.

Probably not worth spending too much time on AP as a target, I think it's highly unlikely he'd choose MTL even if they were offering the most money. It's pretty clear from interviews that at this point he wants to stay in STL and I think he'll eventually re-up here. He wasn't happy with other guys getting extensions before him but he's mentioned legacy is important to him and I don't think he has any desire to start over in a new city with his young family. Could be completely wrong of course but that's my honest take on it.

 

[calder candidate]

If St.Louis tries to lowball Pietrangelo maybe opportunity for Montreal? Habs have tons of cash and caproom.

If the plan was to land Pietrangelo why would they help STL clear cap space...

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

If the plan was to land Pietrangelo why would they help STL clear cap space...

Exactly!

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Since it's pure speculation...maybe it starts with Pietrangelo instead of Allen? Assume, for a second, that Montreal somehow knows that Pietrangelo would seriously consider a competitive offer from Montreal, should such a offer be put forth. Allen then would be the icing on the cake, so to speak. The additional draw to further entice Pietrangelo to jump into Montreal...perhaps?

 

[Shawn Perry]

That 2022 7th really made the difference.

15 million spent on goaltending next season for MTL.

They have lots of cap room. If Allen plays 30 games at the level he plays, he will get 20 wins easily, something MTL has not been able to get out their backup for years. Thankfully they have managed their cap space wisely unlike so many teams. Even with this move, Habs have a lot of room left to bring in an impact player. So few teams in the league are in a position to do this.

 

[Shawn Perry]

1b = 3rd
1a = 2nd
#1 = 1st

I'm good with goalies getting traded as it is setting the market for Freddy.

So that means a 3rd for Freddie? Freddie showed he ain’t ready.

 

[Scintillating10]

Probably not worth spending too much time on AP as a target, I think it's highly unlikely he'd choose MTL even if they were offering the most money. It's pretty clear from interviews that at this point he wants to stay in STL and I think he'll eventually re-up here. He wasn't happy with other guys getting extensions before him but he's mentioned legacy is important to him and I don't think he has any desire to start over in a new city with his young family. Could be completely wrong of course but that's my honest take on it.

Don't get many opportunities to get a stud D-man like Pietrangelo. Especially, not giving up an asset besides caproom. We are prepared to throw a bunch of money at him. Where we have the cash and caproom. If there is 1% opportunity there we like to explore it. Maybe his best friend in Montreal opens the door more?

 

[Lshap]

Don't get many opportunities to get a stud D-man like Pietrangelo. Especially, not giving up an asset besides caproom. We are prepared to throw a bunch of money at him. Where we have the cash and caproom. If there is 1% opportunity there we like to explore it. Maybe his best friend in Montreal opens the door more?

Even if Pietrangelo and Allen are besties, I doubt it makes a difference. Players have friends scattered throughout the league on many teams, having played together as kids, in junior, or another NHL team. I doubt any of them sign a contract because one particular buddy's over there.

Yeah, any team would love having Pietrangelo, but it makes the most sense for him to stay in St. Louis.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Almost 800 points on a Jake Allen and a 2022 7th for a 3rd and 7th

wow

 

[calder candidate]

Since it's pure speculation...maybe it starts with Pietrangelo instead of Allen? Assume, for a second, that Montreal somehow knows that Pietrangelo would seriously consider a competitive offer from Montreal, should such a offer be put forth. Allen then would be the icing on the cake, so to speak. The additional draw to further entice Pietrangelo to jump into Montreal...perhaps?

Pretty sure Pietrangelo is already on record saying that he want in STL. Wouldn’t Price be enough to entice him, Why would he be more willing to take a offer which will be a long term offer because Allen will be a backup for one season...

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

The issue is that if the plan is to ease Romanov into top 4 role right now, you don't want to pay 3.5m for a bottom guy. Also I still feel Mete was better two years ago. Not that I don't like Chiarot but I think his cap could be put to better use. Let us agree to disagree

Chariot is an absolute gem and a steal of a contract.

 

[Mickey Marner]

They have lots of cap room. If Allen plays 30 games at the level he plays, he will get 20 wins easily, something MTL has not been able to get out their backup for years. Thankfully they have managed their cap space wisely unlike so many teams. Even with this move, Habs have a lot of room left to bring in an impact player. So few teams in the league are in a position to do this.

Expecting him to win games at a better rate than the Bruins did this season is optimistic.

 

[nhlfan9191]

They have lots of cap room. If Allen plays 30 games at the level he plays, he will get 20 wins easily, something MTL has not been able to get out their backup for years. Thankfully they have managed their cap space wisely unlike so many teams. Even with this move, Habs have a lot of room left to bring in an impact player. So few teams in the league are in a position to do this.

Allen will not win 20 out of 30 games with our team. Price is arguably one of the best in the league and is still struggling to remain a bit above .500. If Allen can win a few extra games, we may be a playoff team. But we shouldn’t be aiming to be a bubble team. We should be aiming for a championship. And that’s never going to happen with our roster as it is now.

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Pretty sure Pietrangelo is already on record saying that he want in STL. Wouldn’t Price be enough to entice him, Why would he be more willing to take a offer which will be a long term offer because Allen will be a backup for one season...

Well...assuming there is truth to the speculation...Allen is only signed to a one year deal until he's offered a new extention...as part of the overall larger picture.

Again, I'm not saying that's the case...but if it is...maybe this is just the first step in a greater plan.

 

[calder candidate]

Well...assuming there is truth to the speculation...Allen is only signed to a one year deal until he's offered a new extention...as part of the overall larger picture.

Again, I'm not saying that's the case...but if it is...maybe this is just the first step in a greater plan.

I’m hoping it is part of a plan and not just a random Moves but
There is just no way that getting Allen get you any closer to signing Pietrangelo... 1st you have just increase STL ability to resign him while restricting your own, 2nd if he want to go to a contender adding a 4M$ backup those help your case...

 

[Scintillating10]

Since it's pure speculation...maybe it starts with Pietrangelo instead of Allen? Assume, for a second, that Montreal somehow knows that Pietrangelo would seriously consider a competitive offer from Montreal, should such a offer be put forth. Allen then would be the icing on the cake, so to speak. The additional draw to further entice Pietrangelo to jump into Montreal...perhaps?

Maybe, Montreal sure paid too much for Allen compared to the Staal trade.

 

[Scintillating10]

I’m hoping it is part of a plan and not just a random Moves but
There is just no way that getting Allen get you any closer to signing Pietrangelo... 1st you have just increase STL ability to resign him while restricting your own, 2nd if he want to go to a contender adding a 4M$ backup those help your case...

His best friend.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Yeah we just resigned Petry. Pietrangelo is a pipe dream unless MB has Weber moving back to the Preds for a top 6 winger or something which again I doubt happens.

Hell I don't even know what the Preds needs are.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

GTFO with AP to Montreal.

We just extended Petry so he can play on the 3rd RD pair?
Sure as hell ain't getting traded when he was just re-upped?!

And Weber ain't going anywhere and this was confirmed by Bergevin and he's a player Bergevin LOVES!

So again... GTFO with your AP to MTL.

If he was a LD then all day every day to Montreal but he ain't so he won't.

Some people I tell ya...

 

[Pietrangelo]

I think we’ll be looking at a similar situation to Tavares signing. He will announce that he won’t be signing with the blues, except when he does sign it will be completely out of left field which team he goes with

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I think we’ll be looking at a similar situation to Tavares signing. He will announce that he won’t be signing with the blues, except when he does sign it will be completely out of left field which team he goes with

I don't remember Tavares picking Toronto as "out of left field" as they were one of the teams actually meeting him in person and presenting their offer along with a couple other teams that have faded from my memory (San Jose was one for sure, Dallas?....., totally forget who else at this point sorry)

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I don't remember Tavares picking Toronto as "out of left field" as they were one of the teams actually meeting him in person and presenting their offer along with a couple other teams that have faded from my memory (San Jose was one for sure, Dallas?....., totally forget who else at this point sorry)

It was SJ, DAL, TB, BOS, TOR, and NYI. He met with representatives from each organization in LA.