Confirmed Signing with Link: [MTL] 1st round pick Poehling signs ELC with Canadiens

ijuka

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Makes a lot of mistakes. Maybe it's more an issue of poor puck handling.
What does that have to do with hockey IQ? There can be very high IQ plays that just have execution mistakes. You need to differentiate between those.

Anyway, good for Habs. Not really paid a ton of attention to him but he was quite impressive at u-20s. Will likely make a fine player.
 
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He'll be a very good 3C for years and years.

Domi, Danault, Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Weal...C depth looking much better for Montreal.
 
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https://www.tsn.ca/habs-sign-poehling-to-entry-level-deal-1.1282754

Didn't see a thread, he will join the team and may start to play this season.

WJC19 MVP.

Couple of thoughts on this:
1. Don't see this guy playing with the habs unless they are out of the playoffs. He is kind of an "unknown" as of where he sits right now, so him being helpful isnt garanteed. Whose spot would he take in the lineup?
2. Habs were worried about him returning to Uni, which would have let him sign with anyone past next season.

This makes me wonder if his contract doesnt have a "play NHL game this year" stipulation. Lindgren had a similar clause in his contract - he had won 4-2 after allowing a goal on his first shot.
 

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Puljujarvi was a wjc mvp at 17 years old.... He's tearing it up rn right?
That's your argument???

Puljujarvi had a ton of offensive upside before joining the NHL. The fact that he's another bust once he joined the Oilers doesn't change that. You can't just change projections based on naming players that didn't pan out.
 

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He'll be a very good 3C for years and years.

Domi, Danault, Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Weal...C depth looking much better for Montreal.

Fits really well and will likely play in the 4C role. Not a slight on his abilities, but the C depth is really impressive.. If the Habs sign Duchene or Suzuki joins the team, he could be a very nice Winger.
 
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this is what non-habs fans don't understand. he doesn't have be a saviour. Domi is 1st habs C in 10 years to get to 70 pts. he just turned 24. Danault had 50 pts, he's 26. Kotkanieimi is 18. Poehling is 20. if he becomes a better, bigger version of Danault - 55pt C? perfect
 

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Puljujarvi was a wjc mvp at 17 years old.... He's tearing it up rn right?

Stupid argument.

Peter Forsberg, Lindeos, Tavares, Malkin, RNH, Max Domi,Ovechkin, Iginla, Jokinen... were all mvps.

Just because JP is a bust, it doesn’t mean future mvps are likely to bust.
 
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Stupid argument.

Peter Forsberg, Lindeos, Tavares, Malkin, RNH, Max Domi,Ovechkin, Iginla, Jokinen... were all mvps.

Just because JP is a bust, it doesn’t mean future mvps are likely to bust.
As if being MVP is a bad thing.
MVPs = bust based on a singe bust lol. That logic tho
 
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Fits really well and will likely play in the 4C role. Not a slight on his abilities, but the C depth is really impressive.. If the Habs sign Duchene or Suzuki joins the team, he could be a very nice Winger.
I think Suzuki will be the one who ends up being a winger.
 
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Bergevin needs to move one of those middle six Fs for a D.

Rumours were interest in Zadorov, not sure if any Forwards besides Drouin would be of interest.

Maybe a 1st + prospect. AVs need a Goalie, the draft pick can draft Knight which is expected to be in the Habs selection in the mid-teens.
 

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where are the people complaining that this burns a year off the entry level deal?

Not that they're remotely similar players, but the Daniel Sprong situation in Pittsburgh was thanks to burning a year off of his ELC, which resulted in him being waiver eligible in his 2nd season instead of his 3rd and being stuck in that limbo of not being good enough to play for the Penguins, but unable to develop in the minors without being claimed.
 

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That's fair. Though from what I've seen Poehling has low hockey IQ. He's like a 3C at max.

Better than Deslauriers or Peca and this is a fair statement? Poehling has low hockey IQ and a 3C at max?

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Rumours were interest in Zadorov, not sure if any Forwards besides Drouin would be of interest.

Maybe a 1st + prospect. AVs need a Goalie, the draft pick can draft Knight which is expected to be in the Habs selection in the mid-teens.

Zero chance we move a mid 1st + for Zadorov. 17 minute a night D don't return 1sts.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Rumours were interest in Zadorov, not sure if any Forwards besides Drouin would be of interest.

Maybe a 1st + prospect. AVs need a Goalie, the draft pick can draft Knight which is expected to be in the Habs selection in the mid-teens.

I'm interested in Zadorov but no way I am doing a Hall for Larrson type trade. Not saying Drouin turns into Hall for sure but this type of move is not smart. Zadorov is a very solid top 4D which we need on the left side but he don't produce much offense. Kulak is having a better season vs Zadorov.

If I'm trading Drouin, the return is more like a Domi/Galchenyuk swap. Both players with upside but disappointing the team they previously played with. No way I do a Drouin for Zadorov trade. I would consider a Gost for Drouin trade though.

Maybe a Drouin+ for Zadorov+ type trade could work. But the + on the Avs is higher than the + on the Habs.
 

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where are the people complaining that this burns a year off the entry level deal?

Has this been confirmed? Poehling turned 20 on Jan 3rd and I'm confused with the "year" vs "season" of when the contract is signed. From what I know, you burn your ELC in two ways...

1) You play more than 10 NHL games as a 18 or 19 year old.
2) You turned 20 before Jan 1st in the season (or year) you turn pro

Does anybody know if they are talking about the actual calender year or the NHL season? What does the "signing year" mean. Is it the 18/19 NHL season or the 2019 year? If they mean the actual NHL season, then Poehling's contract will slide cause he turned 20 after Dec 31 in this NHL season.

What is an Entry Level Slide?

If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year. For example, if a player signed an ELC for three seasons from 2015-16 to 2017-2018, and their contract slides, their contract is now effective from 2016-17 to 2018-19. An exception to this rule is that if the player is 19 on September 15 of the first year of their contract, and turns 20 between September 16 and December 31, their contract does not slide.

Players who sign at 18 years old are eligible to have their contracted extended for 2 seasons. This extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between September 16 and December 31 in his signing year. Signing bonuses do not slide, and are paid to the player regardless of a slide, this causes the annual average of the players contract to change, and therefore the cap hit decreases for this player.
 

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Poehling and Pulju are nothing alike. Pulju was a WJC MVP before he even got drafted and then got ruined by the Oilers. Poehling was drafted by the Habs and then developped into a WJC MVP. Not the same. They also don’t play the same positions or have similar playing styles for that matter.
lets not pretend the Habs have a strong history of player development over the last decade. Poehling could become a great NHL'er or he could become McCarron or Scherback or Tinordi or some other first rounder who never developed to meet expectations.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Stupid argument.

Peter Forsberg, Lindeos, Tavares, Malkin, RNH, Max Domi,Ovechkin, Iginla, Jokinen... were all mvps.

Just because JP is a bust, it doesn’t mean future mvps are likely to bust.

Agreed. There are always exception to the rule but pretending the exception is the rule is cherry picking to prove nothing other than there are exceptions. 100% agree, it's a stupid argument
 

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