Post-Game Talk: Monty has his Markstrom game: 2-1 Isles in a shootout

[CHGoalie27]

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Anyone who says Monty isn't ready will get the @CHGoalie27 treatment...
What a game for the Rook!

Hahaha this is me on any social media platform ready to pounce on anyone who talks shit about the King and now Sammy LMAO

 

[MintyFresh88]

DEFENSE	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PIM/G	TA	GA	TA/GA	BS	H	H/G
1 Matheson, Michael FLA	73	8	19	27	-22	44	0.6	62	128	0.5	128	62	0.9
2 Petry, Jeff MTL	80	13	32	45	-6	28	0.4	38	122	0.3	120	190	2.4
3 Gaudreau, Johnny CGY	81	36	62	98	18	24	0.3	56	121	0.5	11	12	0.2
4 Ekblad, Aaron FLA	80	13	24	37	3	45	0.6	45	117	0.4	88	111	1.4
5 Barzal, Mathew NYI	80	18	44	62	-5	46	0.6	65	115	0.6	53	25	0.3
6 Burns, Brent SJ	80	14	65	79	8	32	0.4	85	114	0.7	96	87	1.1
7 Draisaitl, Leon EDM	80	47	55	102	2	52	0.7	67	111	0.6	24	56	0.7
8 Yandle, Keith FLA	80	9	51	60	-18	48	0.6	26	106	0.2	75	45	0.6
9 Doughty, Drew LA	80	8	37	45	-32	44	0.6	23	103	0.2	117	166	2.1
10 Muzzin, Jake TOR	80	9	28	37	21	47	0.6	20	102	0.2	134	172	2.2
11 Brodie, T.J. CGY	78	9	25	34	29	24	0.3	67	100	0.7	83	21	0.3
11 Larkin, Dylan DET	74	32	41	73	-4	73	1.0	68	100	0.7	38	80	1.1
13 Hoffman, Mike FLA	80	35	34	69	-25	30	0.4	48	96	0.5	26	40	0.5

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tbh Hoffman being there makes it look even worse than it really is, but looking at the Dmen...3 of the now top 8? ****.

I'm not too worried about Hoffman being where he is...if you look at the forwards on this list, especially guys like Gaudreau and Barzal...it's pretty simple as to why they are there...it's because they possess the puck a lot and they are the types of guys that you'd want to see the puck on their stick as much as possible. Also, their giveaways are most likely in non danger areas.

On the contrary, we seriously need to fix this issue. Having 3 of our top 4 D as high as they are on this list is absurd. No clue as to why this is the way that it is...I'm not sure if it's a system issue or an individual mental issue. Either way, if they can't solve this problem, we'll struggle again next year and it won't matter who our goalie is. You can't have your D giving the puck away this much (presumably the majority of the time in the defensive zone) and expect to win. We know Yandle has his shortcomings defensively, but for Matheson and Ekblad to be both in the top 5 is atrocious. These are literally our best two young long-term blueliners.

 

[CHGoalie27]

I'm not too worried about Hoffman being where he is...if you look at the forwards on this list, especially guys like Gaudreau and Barzal...it's pretty simple as to why they are there...it's because they possess the puck a lot and they are the types of guys that you'd want to see the puck on their stick as much as possible. Also, their giveaways are most likely in non danger areas.

On the contrary, we seriously need to fix this issue. Having 3 of our top 4 D as high as they are on this list is absurd. No clue as to why this is the way that it is...I'm not sure if it's a system issue or an individual mental issue. Either way, if they can't solve this problem, we'll struggle again next year and it won't matter who our goalie is. You can't have your D giving the puck away this much (presumably the majority of the time in the defensive zone) and expect to win. We know Yandle has his shortcomings defensively, but for Matheson and Ekblad to be both in the top 5 is atrocious. These are literally our best two young long-term blueliners.

First part, thats why i said what i said about Hoff lol

All true^

 

[Anakinsky]

DEFENSE	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PIM/G	TA	GA	TA/GA	BS	H	H/G
1 Matheson, Michael FLA	73	8	19	27	-22	44	0.6	62	128	0.5	128	62	0.9
2 Petry, Jeff MTL	80	13	32	45	-6	28	0.4	38	122	0.3	120	190	2.4
3 Gaudreau, Johnny CGY	81	36	62	98	18	24	0.3	56	121	0.5	11	12	0.2
4 Ekblad, Aaron FLA	80	13	24	37	3	45	0.6	45	117	0.4	88	111	1.4
5 Barzal, Mathew NYI	80	18	44	62	-5	46	0.6	65	115	0.6	53	25	0.3
6 Burns, Brent SJ	80	14	65	79	8	32	0.4	85	114	0.7	96	87	1.1
7 Draisaitl, Leon EDM	80	47	55	102	2	52	0.7	67	111	0.6	24	56	0.7
8 Yandle, Keith FLA	80	9	51	60	-18	48	0.6	26	106	0.2	75	45	0.6
9 Doughty, Drew LA	80	8	37	45	-32	44	0.6	23	103	0.2	117	166	2.1
10 Muzzin, Jake TOR	80	9	28	37	21	47	0.6	20	102	0.2	134	172	2.2
11 Brodie, T.J. CGY	78	9	25	34	29	24	0.3	67	100	0.7	83	21	0.3
11 Larkin, Dylan DET	74	32	41	73	-4	73	1.0	68	100	0.7	38	80	1.1
13 Hoffman, Mike FLA	80	35	34	69	-25	30	0.4	48	96	0.5	26	40	0.5

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tbh Hoffman being there makes it look even worse than it really is, but looking at the Dmen...3 of the now top 8? ****.

This is pretty rough. Shows for sure where are huge flaws are on the D coaching side / poor goal tending. No doubt Matheson is absolute trash and is the reason Ekblad is 3 on that list.

 

[Anakinsky]

I'm not too worried about Hoffman being where he is...if you look at the forwards on this list, especially guys like Gaudreau and Barzal...it's pretty simple as to why they are there...it's because they possess the puck a lot and they are the types of guys that you'd want to see the puck on their stick as much as possible. Also, their giveaways are most likely in non danger areas.

On the contrary, we seriously need to fix this issue. Having 3 of our top 4 D as high as they are on this list is absurd. No clue as to why this is the way that it is...I'm not sure if it's a system issue or an individual mental issue. Either way, if they can't solve this problem, we'll struggle again next year and it won't matter who our goalie is. You can't have your D giving the puck away this much (presumably the majority of the time in the defensive zone) and expect to win. We know Yandle has his shortcomings defensively, but for Matheson and Ekblad to be both in the top 5 is atrocious. These are literally our best two young long-term blueliners.

Agree and wonder how much this lies on Matheson, not to give Ekblad an out. But we all saw what transpired this year. There was no chemistry between them and Ekblad was working his hardest to cover for Matheson's flaws. His frustration showed throughout the year and I for sure can't blame him. I hope moves are made for Ekblad's sake. I dont know if he can endure another year of covering for his ass.

 

[StrangeVision]

I sure hope the next 3 years go better for Monty than Markstrom. Saturdays gonna be emotional.

Montembeault looks much better than Markstrom ever did in a Panthers uniform.

 

[RogerRoger]

I'm not too worried about Hoffman being where he is...if you look at the forwards on this list, especially guys like Gaudreau and Barzal...it's pretty simple as to why they are there...it's because they possess the puck a lot and they are the types of guys that you'd want to see the puck on their stick as much as possible. Also, their giveaways are most likely in non danger areas.

On the contrary, we seriously need to fix this issue. Having 3 of our top 4 D as high as they are on this list is absurd. No clue as to why this is the way that it is...I'm not sure if it's a system issue or an individual mental issue. Either way, if they can't solve this problem, we'll struggle again next year and it won't matter who our goalie is. You can't have your D giving the puck away this much (presumably the majority of the time in the defensive zone) and expect to win. We know Yandle has his shortcomings defensively, but for Matheson and Ekblad to be both in the top 5 is atrocious. These are literally our best two young long-term blueliners.

I could partly be how the stat is counted. The Preds used to be notorious for inflating hits stat. So maybe the guy at our rink is stricter and inflate that stat. (if that's how they are counted)

 

[CHGoalie27]

I could partly be how the stat is counted. The Preds used to be notorious for inflating hits stat. So maybe the guy at our rink is stricter and inflate that stat. (if that's how they are counted)

Possible, but it looks like this one might be deflated if doctored at all.

 

[I am not exposed]

BUF is losing to OTT in BUF...

they tank harder than anyone. Impressive decline from what, 1st in the East in late November/early December and now working on a top 3 pick.

But I thought their rebuild had overtaken ours!

 

[KW]

I'm not too worried about Hoffman being where he is...if you look at the forwards on this list, especially guys like Gaudreau and Barzal...it's pretty simple as to why they are there...it's because they possess the puck a lot and they are the types of guys that you'd want to see the puck on their stick as much as possible. Also, their giveaways are most likely in non danger areas.

On the contrary, we seriously need to fix this issue. Having 3 of our top 4 D as high as they are on this list is absurd. No clue as to why this is the way that it is...I'm not sure if it's a system issue or an individual mental issue. Either way, if they can't solve this problem, we'll struggle again next year and it won't matter who our goalie is. You can't have your D giving the puck away this much (presumably the majority of the time in the defensive zone) and expect to win. We know Yandle has his shortcomings defensively, but for Matheson and Ekblad to be both in the top 5 is atrocious. These are literally our best two young long-term blueliners.

Absolutely. Losing the puck in their own zone has been a constant problem this season. I’m never relaxed when we have the puck in our zone.

We have 4 in the top 13 in GA. Calgary has 2. The rest 7 are onesies. That tells you something right there.

I’m just surprised Pysyk is not on the list. That may be because he manages to push the puck weakly to his teammate who loses it and Pissyk doesn’t get the blame. Seen that on a regular basis.

 

[PSLguy]

Well that will be another playoffless year.

Why? Binnington has had success in St Louis, Carter Hart did well for Philly but Monty won't do good for the Panthers?

Save the 7/8/9 million Bob would cost and get Trouba+ for D.

 

[Anakinsky]

Why? Binnington has had success in St Louis, Carter Hart did well for Philly but Monty won't do good for the Panthers?

Save the 7/8/9 million Bob would cost and get Trouba+ for D.

He was referring to Luo being #1 in net. I have to agree if Luo is playing next season not much hope for us. Especially if our current coaching situation has not changed.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Why? Binnington has had success in St Louis, Carter Hart did well for Philly but Monty won't do good for the Panthers?

Save the 7/8/9 million Bob would cost and get Trouba+ for D.

And if Luongo gets hurt (which he most likely will if he plays another year) and Monty struggles?
If we use the "Bob" money to improve the D instead, I'd be okay with having Montembeault as a backup to a short-term starter next year, but not Luongo - I just don't trust him to stay healthy anymore.

 

[PSLguy]

And if Luongo gets hurt (which he most likely will if he plays another year) and Monty struggles?
If we use the "Bob" money to improve the D instead, I'd be okay with having Montembeault as a backup to a short-term starter next year, but not Luongo - I just don't trust him to stay healthy anymore.

If, if, if. What if Monty plays awesome, like Binnington, and wins the Calder?

Problem with signing Bob is it will most likely be for 7 years and he will probably want a NMC or an NTC.

This will block Monty from taking the starting role and even block Bednard from coming into the league.

Even though it's only been a short sample it has been quite clear that Monty has the ability/skill to play in the NHL.

 

[PSLguy]

GR posted on Twitter that Monty, Hawk, and Hunt were sent to Springfield time finish their season. Tbirds have 5 games left.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

DEFENSE	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PIM/G	TA	GA	TA/GA	BS	H	H/G
1 Matheson, Michael FLA	73	8	19	27	-22	44	0.6	62	128	0.5	128	62	0.9
2 Petry, Jeff MTL	80	13	32	45	-6	28	0.4	38	122	0.3	120	190	2.4
3 Gaudreau, Johnny CGY	81	36	62	98	18	24	0.3	56	121	0.5	11	12	0.2
4 Ekblad, Aaron FLA	80	13	24	37	3	45	0.6	45	117	0.4	88	111	1.4
5 Barzal, Mathew NYI	80	18	44	62	-5	46	0.6	65	115	0.6	53	25	0.3
6 Burns, Brent SJ	80	14	65	79	8	32	0.4	85	114	0.7	96	87	1.1
7 Draisaitl, Leon EDM	80	47	55	102	2	52	0.7	67	111	0.6	24	56	0.7
8 Yandle, Keith FLA	80	9	51	60	-18	48	0.6	26	106	0.2	75	45	0.6
9 Doughty, Drew LA	80	8	37	45	-32	44	0.6	23	103	0.2	117	166	2.1
10 Muzzin, Jake TOR	80	9	28	37	21	47	0.6	20	102	0.2	134	172	2.2
11 Brodie, T.J. CGY	78	9	25	34	29	24	0.3	67	100	0.7	83	21	0.3
11 Larkin, Dylan DET	74	32	41	73	-4	73	1.0	68	100	0.7	38	80	1.1
13 Hoffman, Mike FLA	80	35	34	69	-25	30	0.4	48	96	0.5	26	40	0.5

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tbh Hoffman being there makes it look even worse than it really is, but looking at the Dmen...3 of the now top 8? ****.

In fairness to Ekblad, who I was critical of when he slumped early in the season, he has played good defense. I think that's reflected in the fact that he's +25 over Matheson and +21 over Yandle in the +/-.

 

[CHGoalie27]

In fairness to Ekblad, who I was critical of when he slumped early in the season, he has played good defense. I think that's reflected in the fact that he's +25 over Matheson and +21 over Yandle in the +/-.

It also seems when he gives it away he makes a bit more of a conscious effort to recover

He was referring to Luo being #1 in net. I have to agree if Luo is playing next season not much hope for us. Especially if our current coaching situation has not changed.

In the last week, Luongo has *proven* he is still perfectly capable with even the slightest bit of competence in front. So we change the "f*** defense" system, and Lu will be more than fine.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

If, if, if. What if Monty plays awesome, like Binnington, and wins the Calder?

Problem with signing Bob is it will most likely be for 7 years and he will probably want a NMC or an NTC.

This will block Monty from taking the starting role and even block Bednard from coming into the league.

Even though it's only been a short sample it has been quite clear that Monty has the ability/skill to play in the NHL.

Did I say anything about Bob? And if Monty doesn't play awesome when Luongo crashes, we're screwed.

You trust in Monty this much and don't want to sign Bob, that's fine. But a tandem of 40 year old Luongo and Monty is crazy risky. This last three years, Luongo has played 40, 35 and 43* games - so the best case scenario, you get 40 games out out him, but what if his decline continues and he can only handle 20-30 games? Are we really willing to bet next year on the possibility that Monty's ready to be a full-blown starter with just 11 NHL games under his belt?


*Including the last game of the season where he's supposed to start.

 

[geisterpanthers]

It also seems when he gives it away he makes a bit more of a conscious effort to recover

In the last week, Luongo has *proven* he is still perfectly capable with even the slightest bit of competence in front. So we change the "**** defense" system, and Lu will be more than fine.

Only when 100% healthy and then for 25 games a year.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Why? Binnington has had success in St Louis, Carter Hart did well for Philly but Monty won't do good for the Panthers?

Save the 7/8/9 million Bob would cost and get Trouba+ for D.

Binnington would look like dogshit here. He plays behind an excellent defensive system.

 

[KW]

Did I say anything about Bob? And if Monty doesn't play awesome when Luongo crashes, we're screwed.

You trust in Monty this much and don't want to sign Bob, that's fine. But a tandem of 40 year old Luongo and Monty is crazy risky. This last three years, Luongo has played 40, 35 and 43* games - so the best case scenario, you get 40 games out out him, but what if his decline continues and he can only handle 20-30 games? Are we really willing to bet next year on the possibility that Monty's ready to be a full-blown starter with just 11 NHL games under his belt?


*Including the last game of the season where he's supposed to start.

Ideally we get a 2-year rental who is > Lu, >> Reimer.

Bob would be great for first 3 years, but the potential for disaster in years 4-7 is high.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Ideally we get a 2-year rental who is > Lu, >> Reimer.

Bob would be great for first 3 years, but the potential for disaster in years 4-7 is high.

If we do get Bob I really hope we don't give him an NMC. That way he could be moved in a few years or even exposed to Seattle if necessary (though the optics of exposing a two-times Vezina winner and your big UFA signing are obviously not great...)

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Ideally we get a 2-year rental who is > Lu, >> Reimer.

Bob would be great for first 3 years, but the potential for disaster in years 4-7 is high.

And why would Bob start declining at 33? We have a dinosaur whos 40 in net atm. Goalies can easily have their best years mid thirties and certainly we shouldnt be expecting a decline beforw that.

Maybe he will suck the last couple of years of the deal but then you can buy him out or trade him etc. But the focus really should be to be good now.

 

[IceManCat]

DEFENSE	GP	G	A	P	+/-	PIM	PIM/G	TA	GA	TA/GA	BS	H	H/G
1 Matheson, Michael FLA	73	8	19	27	-22	44	0.6	62	128	0.5	128	62	0.9
2 Petry, Jeff MTL	80	13	32	45	-6	28	0.4	38	122	0.3	120	190	2.4
3 Gaudreau, Johnny CGY	81	36	62	98	18	24	0.3	56	121	0.5	11	12	0.2
4 Ekblad, Aaron FLA	80	13	24	37	3	45	0.6	45	117	0.4	88	111	1.4
5 Barzal, Mathew NYI	80	18	44	62	-5	46	0.6	65	115	0.6	53	25	0.3
6 Burns, Brent SJ	80	14	65	79	8	32	0.4	85	114	0.7	96	87	1.1
7 Draisaitl, Leon EDM	80	47	55	102	2	52	0.7	67	111	0.6	24	56	0.7
8 Yandle, Keith FLA	80	9	51	60	-18	48	0.6	26	106	0.2	75	45	0.6
9 Doughty, Drew LA	80	8	37	45	-32	44	0.6	23	103	0.2	117	166	2.1
10 Muzzin, Jake TOR	80	9	28	37	21	47	0.6	20	102	0.2	134	172	2.2
11 Brodie, T.J. CGY	78	9	25	34	29	24	0.3	67	100	0.7	83	21	0.3
11 Larkin, Dylan DET	74	32	41	73	-4	73	1.0	68	100	0.7	38	80	1.1
13 Hoffman, Mike FLA	80	35	34	69	-25	30	0.4	48	96	0.5	26	40	0.5

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tbh Hoffman being there makes it look even worse than it really is, but looking at the Dmen...3 of the now top 8? ****.

What is this chart showing ?

 

[Gentle Man]

Can we give someone more than one season before declaring them starter? And yes...your eyes can tell you differently which is precisely why relying on eye test alone isnt enough as we all have our built in biases.

FFS. I am sure even Blues fans and Flyers fans have doubts entering next year with those two as their respective starters.

Even Vasilevskiy was given time as a backup to Bishop before EARNING the net.