LeBrun: Montreal not looking to trade Petry or Tatar.

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Because we can be competitive next year if we finally acquire a solid top 4 D this summer.

If this goes south next year, we can alway sell him for the highest bid at the TDL

MB will acquire that top 4 D we are missing, after failling to do it for years. Then if by a miracle he achieves that, we will have 1 year to compete, because many good players are UFAs next year.

We have so many holes, it's not even funny, he can't even sign a good backup. Wake up !
 
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So you’re saying moving Pacioretty for Suzuki wasn’t a smart move? I know we got Tatar but at that point he was a cap dump

Since you do NOT know if there was a significant TOP TRIPLE A GRADE prospect offered....then you are making a straw argument.

Patches went for a roster top 6 player AND a top grade prospect. I'm willing to bet the house that Bbinz would of taken such a deal.
 

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I’m not gonna bother responding to these guys who think having more picks means anything. Every year is a season any team can win, playoffs are more valuable than picks

Montreal had..........

5 picks and 5 duds in 2008,
8 picks and 8 duds in 2009
5 picks and 4 duds in 2010
7 picks and 6.5 duds in 2011 (Beaulieu)
7 picks and 6.25 duds in 2012 (Galcheniuk is done in the NHL)
8 picks and 7 duds in 2013 (Lehkonen)
6 picks and 5 duds in 2014

That's a total of 46 picks, 42 duds, 3 ok players and the ONLY decent player of of those picks was Gallagher. Galchy, Lehky and Beau are journeyman.

Tell me again about picks?
 

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Tatar and Petry will almost have the same value same time next year. Better use them and compete next year. MB took the right decision. Furthurmore next year might be his last chance.

How so ? It was a seller market MB had to take profit of that. Usually player have more value when they have term, next year it won't be the case.
 

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Montreal had..........

5 picks and 5 duds in 2008,
8 picks and 8 duds in 2009
5 picks and 4 duds in 2010
7 picks and 6.5 duds in 2011 (Beaulieu)
7 picks and 6.25 duds in 2012 (Galcheniuk is done in the NHL)
8 picks and 7 duds in 2013 (Lehkonen)
6 picks and 5 duds in 2014

That's a total of 46 picks, 42 duds, 3 ok players and the ONLY decent player of of those picks was Gallagher. Galchy, Lehky and Beau are journeyman.

Tell me again about picks?

What is your point ? We should stop drafting ?

Edit: Our f***ing GM thinks that drafting is mostly about luck... Maybe if he changes the scouts it will improve something.

But no, MB thinks that it's not his fault nor the scout's fault... It's all about bad luck. :laugh:
 
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Awful deadline for Montreal. I like both Tatar and Petry but one of them if not both should have been moved today. Sellers market and they had all the opportunity to build upon a youth movement. I do not understand MB's thinking. He claims he wants to build through the draft but he wants to contend. I understand retooling and keeping some players but this is just a clear lack of vision.
 

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What is your point ? We should stop drafting ?

Edit: Our f*cking GM thinks that drafting is mostly about luck... Maybe if he changes the scouts it will improve something.

But no, MB thinks that it's not his fault nor the scout's fault... It's all about bad luck. :laugh:

Arguing about bad drafting is one thing, arguing that stock piling picks and it's the way to nirvana is false hope. Case in point are the oilers.
 

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Montreal had..........

5 picks and 5 duds in 2008,
8 picks and 8 duds in 2009
5 picks and 4 duds in 2010
7 picks and 6.5 duds in 2011 (Beaulieu)
7 picks and 6.25 duds in 2012 (Galcheniuk is done in the NHL)
8 picks and 7 duds in 2013 (Lehkonen)
6 picks and 5 duds in 2014

That's a total of 46 picks, 42 duds, 3 ok players and the ONLY decent player of of those picks was Gallagher. Galchy, Lehky and Beau are journeyman.

Tell me again about picks?

So your solution is... not to draft? :huh: Because there is absolutely no other way to build a contender unless you play in a post apocalyptic world and your team is in the only city with running water.

If anything this screams that they need every pick they can.
 

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Arguing about bad drafting is one thing, arguing that stock piling picks and it's the way to nirvana is false hope. Case in point are the oilers.

When your GM tells you that it's hard to sign UFA's, it's hard to make trades, that #1C are never traded... How can you improve the team then ?

By the draft, it's literally our only hope with that scrub in charge.

BTW, Oilers are an exemple of bad drafting, but they still got McDavid and Draisaitl. We have who ? Danault ? Domi ? Drouin ?

Pens, Hawks, and the Kings all needed to suck before winning the Stanley cup, many times.
 

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Arguing about bad drafting is one thing, arguing that stock piling picks and it's the way to nirvana is false hope. Case in point are the oilers.
Bad drafting are the Oilers. Bad drafting and bad trading are the Habs?
 

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What a f***ing joke MB is so sick of that loser. We have a loser running the Habs so the damn Habs are going to be a bunch of losers until hes gone good grief.....how many more years until all habs fans are on board of a full on rebuild? hes already had 8 years maybe another 8 years will do the trick i guess what a sad f***ing day seriously its the same old tricks from MB I guess the saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks is true...
 

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MB will acquire that top 4 D we are missing, after failling to do it for years. Then if by a miracle he achieves that, we will have 1 year to compete, because many good players are UFAs next year.

We have so many holes, it's not even funny, he can't even sign a good backup. Wake up !

The missing Top 4 D? I thought that was filled by Alzner. And Chiarot.

Excited to see who he gets this summer. My guess is Joel Edmundson on a four year deal.
 
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Arguing about bad drafting is one thing, arguing that stock piling picks and it's the way to nirvana is false hope. Case in point are the oilers.

Lol, every single contributor of note on the currently playoff bound Oilers team except their goalies has been drafted by them.

McDavid
Drasaitl
RNH
Yamamoto
Klefbom
Nurse
Bear
 

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I simply cannot believe the thinking of the Habs management here? They could have got a gaggle of picks and prospects for both Petry and Tatar now.....it isn't like Montreal is going anywhere with them anyhow....why not add more picks and young players to Montreal's already nice collection of youth.....this is a terrible move ....they will not get as much now going forward.
 

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Tatar and Petry will almost have the same value same time next year. Better use them and compete next year. MB took the right decision. Furthurmore next year might be his last chance.
A player’s value with an extra year is the same as that player as a pending UFA. They may not have gotten offered what they were looking for but that doesn’t make any sense.
 

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Title should be changed to ‘Montreal not looking to compete in the next decade’
 

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So its clear, that Bergy wants to make a splash in the Free agent market and next season going hard for Cup. It would be the last season for Price, if they didnt achieve big playoff run.
 

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Tatar and Petry will almost have the same value same time next year. Better use them and compete next year. MB took the right decision. Furthurmore next year might be his last chance.
the problem with this is if Montreal is in the playoff race next year. if they are anywhere near the playoffs Bergevin cant trade them and miss the playoffs again. he might need to add at TDL next year and risk losing them to FA.
 

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Epic fail but as predicted

Can’t wait to be in this same spot next year except we have a bunch of UFAs then and likely keep them all for a pathetic playoff push and watch them walk or resign 30+ old vets on dumb contracts
 

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Montreal destined to be a middle of the pack team for the foreseeable future.
Montreal hasn't been middle of the pack in nearly a decade. They are mediocre and will remain so as long as they have the two worst contracts in the NHL, Weber and Price.
 

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Awful deadline for Montreal. I like both Tatar and Petry but one of them if not both should have been moved today. Sellers market and they had all the opportunity to build upon a youth movement. I do not understand MB's thinking. He claims he wants to build through the draft but he wants to contend. I understand retooling and keeping some players but this is just a clear lack of vision.

He also then cited Suzuki as building thru the draft so he might be kinda dumb
 

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