MMA General Discussion and Fight Announcements 8.0

[m9]

I like Bader to take him down and force a TKO stoppage within 2 rounds. But it's heavyweight, so who knows.

 

[Avs_19]

I like Bader to win rather easily as well. Anything can happen at HW and we've seen Fedor catch plenty of guys and Bader come up short in big moments but I don't think that'll happen tonight.

I'm looking forward to seeing Pico again. Too bad Mousasi isn't fighting tonight.

 

[member 51464]

Man, Pico got knocked the f*** out.

 

[m9]

Man, Pico got knocked the **** out.

Yeah, he's fun to watch but just has no chin in there.

 

[Suxnet]

Saw that coming a mile away.

 

[m9]

Bader just effectively one-punched Fedor.. though that follow-up on the ground was vicious too.

 

[Avs_19]

What a brutal KO that was. Pico gets reckless in there and it cost him again. I don't know if he can do anything about that chin but he can certainly fight smarter.

Bader makes easy work of Fedor. Nice to see him have success after never getting a title shot in the UFC. He's still a top five LHW regardless of promotion and would likely be up there at HW as well.

 

[Vagrant]

to me, that pico fight is just careless matchmaking. the way they handle fighting prospects needs to change. you'd never see this type of acceleration in such a limited amount of matches in boxing. to put a kid like this in the co main against a veteran like corrales is just too much too soon. less than ten minutes of professional mma experience.

 

[TimeZone]

Pico needs to clean up his striking defense .

 

[Rocko604]

to me, that pico fight is just careless matchmaking. the way they handle fighting prospects needs to change. you'd never see this type of acceleration in such a limited amount of matches in boxing. to put a kid like this in the co main against a veteran like corrales is just too much too soon. less than ten minutes of professional mma experience.

They've been doing that with Ed Ruth, Neiman Gracie, AJ McKee, and MVP.

But unlike boxing, if you slowly build up a prospect in a big organization, instead of a regional promotion, he'll just be accused of being a can crusher with an inflated record.

 

[1specter]

Pico needs to clean up his striking defense .

Yup this was a winnable fight for him. He got ahead of himself and showed poor IQ. Should've taken him down again and finished him on the ground.

 

[Peter Griffin]

to me, that pico fight is just careless matchmaking. the way they handle fighting prospects needs to change. you'd never see this type of acceleration in such a limited amount of matches in boxing. to put a kid like this in the co main against a veteran like corrales is just too much too soon. less than ten minutes of professional mma experience.

Boxing is a whole different animal, but how is this any different than how the UFC handled Sage Northcutt? It's not lke Corrales is some world beater. If Pico is this stud prospect they make him out to be he should walk through him. And he almost did. Unfortunately he's just not that good. Like Sage.

 

[1specter]

Boxing is a whole different animal, but how is this any different than how the UFC handled Sage Northcutt? It's not lke Corrales is some world beater. If Pico is this stud prospect they make him out to be he should walk through him. And he almost did. Unfortunately he's just not that good. Like Sage.

Corrales is close to the point of being a title contender in Bellator, he's not a scrub. I wouldn't say Pico is not that good just because he lost tonight... With a few adjustments and some better IQ he wins this fight, and he's still only 22. My only real concern with him is that he seems to be a bit chinny, as he's gotten stunned or wobbled in most of his fights at some point.

 

[I am the Liquor]

What a brutal KO that was. Pico gets reckless in there and it cost him again. I don't know if he can do anything about that chin but he can certainly fight smarter.

Bader makes easy work of Fedor. Nice to see him have success after never getting a title shot in the UFC. He's still a top five LHW regardless of promotion and would likely be up there at HW as well.

I don’t think so. He was in a tourney with a bunch of has beens.

 

[Avs_19]

I don’t think so. He was in a tourney with a bunch of has beens.

The UFC LHW division is very weak. Bader would likely be favoured over everyone except Jones and Gus. He can compete with and probably beat a few of the top 10 HWs as well.

 

[I am the Liquor]

The UFC LHW division is very weak. Bader would likely be favoured over everyone except Jones and Gus. He can compete with and probably beat a few of the top 10 HWs as well.

He is a good and relevant fighter. Probably the only one in that tourney.

 

[pistolpete11]

Bader would be top 5 in the UFC LHW, but I think that says more about the state of that division than it does about Bader. If DC and Rumble were still around and other guys like Rockhold and Romero finally move up, I think it's real debatable he is still top 5.

I think he would really struggle at HW in the UFC.

 

[m9]

Bader is constantly underrated, probably because of the Tito loss and because he was a clown on TUF. He's very good and I would have liked to see him vs Cormier before Bader went to Bellator.

 

[pistolpete11]

Bader is constantly underrated, probably because of the Tito loss and because he was a clown on TUF. He's very good and I would have liked to see him vs Cormier before Bader went to Bellator.

I think he's just a Tier 2 LHW. Like Gus. Probably a notch or 2 below Gus even. Very good fighters. Will beat the perennial #5-10 type of guys, but will lose to the top guys.

 

[LSCII]

Fedor's legacy is that he's a marginal fighter at this point and can't take even a light punch now. He's 7-5 in his last 12, and really it's 6-6 if you attribute him a loss in that fight against Maldonado, which he didn't actually win. And he's lucky to be .500 because he's looked that bad. Dude needs to hang it up before he gets hurt permanently. Getting dusted easily by Mitrione and Bader should be enough for him to realize he's cooked as both of those guys are good but not great fighters. Definitely more 2nd tier than the top UFC fighters.

 

[m9]

Khabib's suspension is in : 9 months that can be reduced to 6 months if he participates in an anti-bullying campaign.

That should make him eligible to fight at UFC236 in April, which has been the rumor for awhile.

 

[m9]

Conor got a straight up 6 months, so he would be eligible to return mid-April as well.

 

[Avs_19]

Khabib's suspension is in : 9 months that can be reduced to 6 months if he participates in an anti-bullying campaign.

That should make him eligible to fight at UFC236 in April, which has been the rumor for awhile.

Conor got a straight up 6 months, so he would be eligible to return mid-April as well.

Good news. Hopefully they get back sooner rather than later. I saw Ariel Helwani tweeted that he doesn't expect Khabib to fight before his teammates suspensions are up, which would be October, and Conor's more likely to be back late spring/summer.

It could just be some negotiating tactics but if Khabib really does sit out because of loyalty and won't fight before October even though he's eligible in April, they'll need to do something about the belt. I don't think you strip him but you have to get things moving so an interim title fight involving Ferguson might make sense. The top of their best division has already been held up for too long.

 

[m9]

Good news. Hopefully they get back sooner rather than later. I saw Ariel Helwani tweeted that he doesn't expect Khabib to fight before his teammates suspensions are up, which would be October, and Conor's more likely to be back late spring/summer.

It could just be some negotiating tactics but if Khabib really does sit out because of loyalty and won't fight before October even though he's eligible in April, they'll need to do something about the belt. I don't think you strip him but you have to get things moving so an interim title fight involving Ferguson might make sense. The top of their best division has already been held up for too long.

The good news is that hopefully it sets things up for Conor to fight someone else and not forcing that rematch. I've gone down the hypothetical road with this division too much already at this point, but the usual guys are going to be in the mix and match them however you like with Ferguson, Conor, Poirier, Nate. Cowboy & Iaquinta have worked their way into the discussion as well. We'll see with Holloway.

 

[Avs_19]

The good news is that hopefully it sets things up for Conor to fight someone else and not forcing that rematch. I've gone down the hypothetical road with this division too much already at this point, but the usual guys are going to be in the mix and match them however you like Ferguson, Conor, Poirier, Nate. Cowboy & Iaquinta have worked their way into the discussion as well. We'll see with Holloway.

Good point. I don't want to see an immediate rematch so that's one good thing. There's more talk about Cerrone and Holloway than Khabib though so hopefully that's the direction they're going in with Conor anyways.