MLB off-season news & notes discussion thread

[Del Preston]

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Hope the A's can sign Morton. They should have 2 years ago.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I imagine he may end up in Atlanta if they show interest

He lives in Florida and didn't he say in past he wanted to stay on East Coast

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I imagine he may end up in Atlanta if they show interest

He lives in Florida and didn't he say in past he wanted to stay on East Coast

Toronto is on the east coast. He should sign there

 

[punk_o_holic]

Nah, Morton should come back to Houston. But apparently he still wants to pitch for TB and he could return on a two year deal.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Nah, Morton should come back to Houston. But apparently he still wants to pitch for TB and he could return on a two year deal.

Nah, the only thing that should come back to Houston after their bullshit trash can banging is Hurricane Harvey

 

[punk_o_holic]

Nah, the only thing that should come back to Houston after their bullshit trash can banging is Hurricane Harvey

Maybe another hurricane will inspire them and bring them a 2nd title.

Although people living in Houston who aren't Astros fans(or players or staff who had nothing to do with the cheating) shouldn't have to suffer from the disaster.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Maybe another hurricane will inspire them and bring them a 2nd title.

Although people living in Houston who aren't Astros fans(or players or staff who had nothing to do with the cheating) shouldn't have to suffer from the disaster.

Fair enough. Will work on localizing the hurricane to only Astros fans, players, staff and the stadium itself

 

[Say Hey Kid]

• White Sox waiting for La Russa's case to play out
• Source: Angels name Braves' Minasian new GM
• Bauer 1st pitcher in Reds history to win Cy Young
• Indians' Bieber unanimously wins AL Cy Young
• Padres' Tatis Jr. would consider playing winter ball
• Realmuto, Springer, LeMahieu all reject offers

 

[BigMac1212]

I heard that the Yankees and Mets are shaking up their Minor League affiliates. Is this noteworthy?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

• White Sox waiting for La Russa's case to play out
• Source: Angels name Braves' Minasian new GM
• Bauer 1st pitcher in Reds history to win Cy Young
• Indians' Bieber unanimously wins AL Cy Young
• Padres' Tatis Jr. would consider playing winter ball
• Realmuto, Springer, LeMahieu all reject offers

Amazing that the game's oldest team had never had a Cy winner before.

 

[Cas]

Amazing that the game's oldest team had never had a Cy winner before.

The Reds have traditionally had fairly mediocre pitching. Look at any all-time Reds roster and compare their pitching staff to any other team:

Eppa Rixey
Dolf Luque
Noodles Hahn
Paul Derringer
Tony Mullane
Bucky Walters
Jose Rijo
Jim Maloney

Some combination of those pitchers compared to, say the Braves (Maddux, Spahn, Niekro, Glavine, Nichols, Smoltz), Red Sox (Clemens, Young, Martinez, Tiant, Grove), A's (Grove, Plank, Waddell, Bender, Hudson, Zito, Blue, Hunter), and so on.

That said, the Reds aren't the oldest team in baseball - that'd be the Braves, who are in a way the descendants of the 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings (the Wright brothers, Cal McVey, and Charlie Gould were on both the 1869 and 1871 Red Stockings teams), via Boston. Today's Reds formed in 1882, while the Braves were one of the inaugural teams of the 1871 National Association who survived to join the National League in 1876.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

The Reds have traditionally had fairly mediocre pitching. Look at any all-time Reds roster and compare their pitching staff to any other team:

Eppa Rixey
Dolf Luque
Noodles Hahn
Paul Derringer
Tony Mullane
Bucky Walters
Jose Rijo
Jim Maloney

Some combination of those pitchers compared to, say the Braves (Maddux, Spahn, Niekro, Glavine, Nichols, Smoltz), Red Sox (Clemens, Young, Martinez, Tiant, Grove), A's (Grove, Plank, Waddell, Bender, Hudson, Zito, Blue, Hunter), and so on.

That said, the Reds aren't the oldest team in baseball - that'd be the Braves, who are in a way the descendants of the 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings (the Wright brothers, Cal McVey, and Charlie Gould were on both the 1869 and 1871 Red Stockings teams), via Boston. Today's Reds formed in 1882, while the Braves were one of the inaugural teams of the 1871 National Association who survived to join the National League in 1876.

That's what I get for trying to post a fact off memory instead of looking it up lol.

Those big red machine teams get more rings with better pitching. As an A's fan I'm glad they didn't.

 

[Cas]

That's what I get for trying to post a fact off memory instead of looking it up lol.

To be fair, that's a lot closer than the typical person would get if you asked them to name the oldest extant baseball team.

 

[NJDevs26]

Yikes

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Yikes

Not the worst thing any athlete has ever done.

Depending on the circumstance I might even be sympathetic to Randy.

 

[Terry Yake]

The Reds have traditionally had fairly mediocre pitching. Look at any all-time Reds roster and compare their pitching staff to any other team:

Eppa Rixey
Dolf Luque
Noodles Hahn
Paul Derringer
Tony Mullane
Bucky Walters
Jose Rijo
Jim Maloney

Some combination of those pitchers compared to, say the Braves (Maddux, Spahn, Niekro, Glavine, Nichols, Smoltz), Red Sox (Clemens, Young, Martinez, Tiant, Grove), A's (Grove, Plank, Waddell, Bender, Hudson, Zito, Blue, Hunter), and so on.

That said, the Reds aren't the oldest team in baseball - that'd be the Braves, who are in a way the descendants of the 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings (the Wright brothers, Cal McVey, and Charlie Gould were on both the 1869 and 1871 Red Stockings teams), via Boston. Today's Reds formed in 1882, while the Braves were one of the inaugural teams of the 1871 National Association who survived to join the National League in 1876.

jose rijo appeared in a game after receiving a HOF vote

pretty sure only one or two other guys have done that

 

[Cas]

jose rijo appeared in a game after receiving a HOF vote

pretty sure only one or two other guys have done that

Satchel Paige received one vote on the 1951 BBWAA ballot. Of course, the rules of eligibility were much more opaque at that time - Paige would actually pitch 23 games in 1951, and another 103 in the next two seasons, for an 18-23 record (mostly in relief) with the St. Louis Browns. Paige put up a 3.57 ERA in 317.1 innings in those three seasons, demonstrating that he was still a quality major league pitcher. He later cameoed in 1965 for the Kansas City A's.

Minnie Minoso received his first votes in 1969, fell off the ballot, played in three games in 1976, and restarted his eligibility clock (rules having now been established) before pushing it back again with two games in 1980. He stayed on the ballot until 1999.

Plenty of players in the early days of voting received votes while active - Joe DiMaggio and Hank Greenberg in 1945, and Bill Dickey, Dizzy Dean, Ted Lyons, Joe Gordon, and Johnny Vander Meer also received votes (they were in uniform) and played in 1946 or 1947. There were a bunch of active players who received votes on the first, 1936 ballot. But since modern eligibility rules were put in place, as far as I am aware, only Minoso and Rijo have played major league games after receiving votes.

 

[BigMac1212]

What happened to the Atlantic League? There's only 6 teams left!

Atlantic League Professional Baseball: Home

 

[MMC]

Was previously DFA'd

 

[Unholy Diver]

Tommy Sandt, former MLB coach and owner of a great mustache has died

Tommy Sandt, former Bisons manager and MLB coach, dies at 69 | Baseball | buffalonews.com

 

[John Price]

he's a good guy

briefly saw him before but didn't speak to him. Was a few inches from him though as he was talking to fans before the WS

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

RIP team stupid money.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]