OT: MLB Discussion Thread: Part XXIII

[darko]

If we had Cole we'd be playing in ALCS IMO.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Dodgers won game 7 by hitting 2 big home runs. There is no right or wrong approach. A team that gets hot at the right time of the year tends to go on and win majority of the time. Plenty of teams have bashed their way through the postseason. Daniel Murphy went on a HR spree and took the Mets to WS.

Yankees downfall isn't their lineup. It's the lack of pitching. Starting pitching.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. The hitting philosophy and the starting pitching both need to be addressed.

 

[Cassano]

If we had Cole we'd be playing in ALCS IMO.

Maybe, but Cole was lit up in Boston anyways.

Boston just seems like a team of destiny.

 

[Cassano]

 

[Machinehead]

Maybe we can improve our lineup AND our starting pitching?

 

[nyr2k2]

The three finalists for the Mets' GM job are Chaim Bloom, Doug Melvin and Bradley Van Wagenen, a sports agent who runs some big firm. Literally three completely different backgrounds. Bloom is an analytics wizard and 35, Melvin is old school and almost twice Bloom's age, and the other guy is a f***ing agent (although presumably inclined). I'd obviously like Bloom, as he seems like he could be the next big thing, but I'm also intrigued by the agent. That would be a really outside-the-box, potentially innovative move which is not something the Mets are known for.

Which means Papa Wilpon will win out and it will be Melvin. Which, I mean f*** that, but he's pretty okay for an old school guy, I guess.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

The three finalists for the Mets' GM job are Chaim Bloom, Doug Melvin and Bradley Van Wagenen, a sports agent who runs some big firm. Literally three completely different backgrounds. Bloom is an analytics wizard and 35, Melvin is old school and almost twice Bloom's age, and the other guy is a ****ing agent (although presumably inclined). I'd obviously like Bloom, as he seems like he could be the next big thing, but I'm also intrigued by the agent. That would be a really outside-the-box, potentially innovative move which is not something the Mets are known for.

Which means Papa Wilpon will win out and it will be Melvin. Which, I mean **** that, but he's pretty okay for an old school guy, I guess.

Isn’t that guy DeGrom’s agent

 

[nyr2k2]

Isn’t that guy DeGrom’s agent

Yeah and Cespedes.

 

[Cassano]

Red Sox are simply the clutchest team in the league. No ways around it.

 

[romba]

Red Sox are simply the clutchest team in the league. No ways around it.

Doesn’t the idea of a player being more or less ‘clutch’, not exist based on analytics??? Askin for a friend ty

 

[nyr2k2]

Doesn’t the idea of a player being more or less ‘clutch’, not exist based on analytics??? Askin for a friend ty

Yeah that's what they say. Over a large sample "clutch" really isn't repeatable.

For my money, people frame clutch the wrong way. It doesn't have to mean elevating your game in tough spots. It can simply be maintaining your established level of success in tough spots. Like a guy doesn't need to see his average shoot up 50 points with 2-out and RISP to be clutch; if he's a .280 hitter and he hits .280 with 2-out and RISP, that to me is clutch, since you'd expect to see his numbers drop there.

The Red Sox just do their thing no matter the pitcher or the moment. That's clutch, in my book. They don't need to be doing better, just continuing to do the thing that won them 108-or-whatever games. The playoffs are supposed to be harder. Repeating what you did in the regular season is no small feat.

 

[Machinehead]

Yeah that's what they say. Over a large sample "clutch" really isn't repeatable.

For my money, people frame clutch the wrong way. It doesn't have to mean elevating your game in tough spots. It can simply be maintaining your established level of success in tough spots. Like a guy doesn't need to see his average shoot up 50 points with 2-out and RISP to be clutch; if he's a .280 hitter and he hits .280 with 2-out and RISP, that to me is clutch, since you'd expect to see his numbers drop there.

The Red Sox just do their thing no matter the pitcher or the moment. That's clutch, in my book. They don't need to be doing better, just continuing to do the thing that won them 108-or-whatever games. The playoffs are supposed to be harder. Repeating what you did in the regular season is no small feat.

Or you can be the Yankees who hit .249 as a team and .253 with RISP. It marginally went up. Is that clutch? I guess by that definition it is.

Now the issue is less about clutch, and more about contending teams shouldn't hit .250.

 

[RGY]

Would you look at that....JD Martinez in an 0-1 count lightens up his swing by shortening up and punching a ball the other way. This team has so much better DISCIPLINE at the plate and it all starts with the APPROACH when they enter the batters box which is based off the PHILOSOPHY of the Team that is put forward by the hitting coach and head coach.

 

[ThirdEye]

LA should just throw the damn towel in... Just seems like any time you make any headway against this damn team they come right back and one up you. Enjoy another ring you scruffy looking f***s

 

[darko]

Would you look at that....JD Martinez in an 0-1 count lightens up his swing by shortening up and punching a ball the other way. This team has so much better DISCIPLINE at the plate and it all starts with the APPROACH when they enter the batters box which is based off the PHILOSOPHY of the Team that is put forward by the hitting coach and head coach.

Except Martinez is a hitter known to go the opposite way throughout his career so it's not Boston's coaching.

 

[Cassano]

When Boston inevitably completes the sweep, you just have to wonder how such a top heavy team won 108 regular season games and only 2 losses in the post-season.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Except Martinez is a hitter known to go the opposite way throughout his career so it's not Boston's coaching.

Their entire team excels at situational hitting, not just Martinez. Cora has brought over the lessons that he learned in Houston. The results speak for themselves.

 

[RGY]

Except Martinez is a hitter known to go the opposite way throughout his career so it's not Boston's coaching.

Lol cmon this is absurd, the whole team does this. They all have quality ABs and they dont overswing. Theyre a pretty selfless team.

 

[darko]

Their entire team excels at situational hitting, not just Martinez. Cora has brought over the lessons that he learned in Houston. The results speak for themselves.

Or maybe Boston added one of the better hitters in baseball to a lineup that already had Betts/Bogaerts/Benintendi. People are acting like Cora is a wizard.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Or maybe Boston added one of the better hitters in baseball to a lineup that already had Betts/Bogaerts/Benintendi. People are acting like Cora is a wizard.

All of whom have had the best year of their career. That isn't a coincidence.

 

[darko]

All of whom have had the best year of their career. That isn't a coincidence.

You are right. 3 of them are young and just entering their primes.

 

[I Eat Crow]

The Red Sox are going to win the World Series in a year that the Eagles and Caps are defending champions. Why us?

 

[Roo Returns]

I'm going to be in Boston this Saturday. Chances the Red Sox sweep I'd say are pretty good. I should bring my Rangers jersey and have every Bostonian I know touch it, and steal any locks of hair, dirt, make a capsule, bring it home, and bury it under the MSG ice.

 

[Crease]

LA should just throw the damn towel in... Just seems like any time you make any headway against this damn team they come right back and one up you. Enjoy another ring you scruffy looking ****s

How I felt in the LA Kings series.

 

[Roo Returns]

How I felt in the LA Kings series.

Rangers 2014 SCF and the Mets 2015 WS were exactly the same thing. Both teams lost to a team with a crown as part of their logo in five games where 4/5 were winnable.