What is inherently wrong is changing the criteria that you a judge a player by in every single thread with zero context, while saying other posters are manipulating stats when they are clearly stating what stats they’re using.
Some teams play multiple teams in a playoff. I understand why this might be foreign to you though.
.... Tavares has sustained totals he has achieved multiple times prior to Marner. Marner went from seasons of 63 and 69 point seasons to a 90 point pace with Tavares... I don't see how you could call Tavares the passenger over Marner.He's been the 2nd best Leafs player since he came into the league. If you're going to call anyone a passenger on that line, it's Tavares.
Other people doing stuff you don't like isn't an excuse for using improper evaluation methodology yourself.
That doesn't change the fact that each series is one unique team, and the quality of that team's defense/goaltending will impact things like production. It's not the same thing as the regular season, where you're facing 30 different teams, all with different characteristics.
And what evaluation methodology was it that I used that was improper? I was simply telling Leafsnation that he shouldn’t be judging someone else for using any criteria, especially calling them manipulating when his changes constantly. Maybe this was a portion you should comment to him?
So is each and every single game of the regular season. Should we break that up into 82 separate categories for more “context”?
You were promoting improper methodology combining regular season and playoff stats. What other users were doing incorrectly is irrelevant.
The quality of teams/defenses/goaltenders faced in a regular season averages out for the most part, as you have a bigger sample against a wide variety of teams.
How was I promoting anything? Improper methodology? You mean the criteria that you yourself said isn’t inherently wrong? You’re trying a little to hard here. I never said one way was better than the other. I think both have their uses. But for that poster to call another manipulative is asinine. And how is you sticking up for that poster any different? Does this mean you promote his evaluation methodology?
Considering the playoffs isn't inherently wrong, as long as you apply the necessary context. Considering the playoffs by just adding it on to regular season stats is wrong.
I haven't discussed his evaluation methodology at all; only you have.
No, I'm used to HFboards being wrong and dismissing everything other than raw points. Happens all the time.
False. Other posters are allowed to post what they feel in important.
By rushing to that posters aid and only attacking my points you are inherently defending his
Ya your right and everyone else is wrong. And your also right about how teams were lining up to send Mitch an offer sheet that would have cost them 4 first round picks for an overpaid Marner. Tons of teams have enough cap space for that and see no issue with giving up their next 4 first round picks.
I didn't "rush to that poster's aid". I responded to a statement you made. It had nothing to do with what the other poster said.
I didn't say I knew what happened regarding offer sheets; just that we knew he had them offered to him, and the most logical conclusion from the available information is that they were substantial. Four first round picks is a heavy price, but players like Marner are exceptionally rare, and 1st round picks and their average return on investment for non-bottom feeders tend to be overvalued on these boards.
Players do, to some extent, face different qualities of defenses/goaltending throughout a regular season, impacting production, but because they face such a wide variety of teams over a much bigger sample, that tends to average out to fairly minimal differences. As this thread demonstrates, it's hard enough to get people to acknowledge very basic concepts like how PP time impacts raw production, so not sure we're in a place where we can discuss potential impacts of uneven opponent distribution in the regular season.
so that post is so wrong that it requires all this attention, but the other poster who refuses to follow any sort of criteria or “context” is of no concern to your policing abilities?
It depends which foot has the flip-flop on it at the time. Goals? P/60? Usage? You can be sure to see the same shit over and over again.
