Mitch Marner vs Mikko Rantanen

[CatchyTune]

It's not surprising everyone in the north division is having a career year. The division sucks. Rantanen had a slow start to season and ended up looking better.

The average GA for a team in the West Division (Colorado's division) is 164. The average GA for a team in the North is 162. The narrative that the North is bad is stupid and old.

That being said I do take Rantanen here. Just wanted to point out stupid logic.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Marner is the better player. He does it all for Toronto.

 

[Muffin]

The guy that actually shows up in the playoffs.

 

[ER89]

f*** mitch

 

[nammerus]

Oh man. Let’s bump this every playoff. Leafs fans..hahaha

 

[AuraSphere]

And to think the Leafs were going to trade down from pick 4 to take Rantanen.

God why didn't we..

 

[TheForsbergShow]

I'll take the guy on a 15 game playoff point streak and 23 more playoff points in 6 more games.

But maybe I'm a biased avs fan..

 

[jonlin]

Marner is the better player. He does it all for Toronto.

He does. I see it every post-season.

 

[jonlin]

Marner plays with two of the best scoring C centres of the past 50 years. He passes them the puck because they like to shoot. He's a team player that is adapting his game to help his linemates.

If you put Marner with a normal C that is more pass first I think Marner could put up 45G 55A in a full season.

With a puck hog like MacGinnon you would see Marners assists plummet but 60G is not too far fetched.

Keep dreaming.

Playoffs:

Rantanen 38GP 15G 33A 48P +17

Marner 32GP 5G 18A 23P -3

One is not like the other. I can see Marner contributing more when it counts - for the opponent...

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

This is amazing.

 

[klozge]

Feels a bit like last year's Makar / Hughes debate at this point.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Definitely not Marner, dude is a big game choker. Maybe Leafs fans will finally put some value into playoff performances because its not even close between these two.

 

[Plural]

Keep dreaming.

Playoffs:

Rantanen 38GP 15G 33A 48P +17

Marner 32GP 5G 18A 23P -3

One is not like the other. I can see Marner contributing more when it counts - for the opponent...

Damn. Rantanen is a stud in playoffs. 38 games is starting to be a decent sample size to boot. Over 1.2ppg is elite.

Marner has issues. 0.71ppg is not nearly good enough for a player of his caliber.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Playoffs does factor in, but is there a huge difference simply because Marner has sucked in the playoffs? I'm not sure I think there is.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Playoffs does factor in, but is there a huge difference simply because Marner has sucked in the playoffs? I'm not sure I think there is.

I think the playoffs is the difference between the two. In the regular season they’re the same level players, similar PPG, but ones a better scorer vs playmaker. Both top 5 wingers and both franchise center pieces. But Marner scores at a .78ppg pace in the playoffs where Rantanen is a 1.26ppg. That monumental difference is what puts Rantanen over Marner.

 

[slobbergob]

Playoffs does factor in, but is there a huge difference simply because Marner has sucked in the playoffs? I'm not sure I think there is.

There would have to be a very significant gap in their regular season play to still have Marner ahead when factoring in playoffs as well. There isn't.

 

[34]

Marner sure proved how Insignificant he really is. He does not belong in this poll anymore.

 

[AvroArrow]

Lmao can't believe i voted for 16. He might have one of the worst contracts in the league. Regular season great, playoff beer leaguer.

 

[Makaveli]

This Leafs fan (who also started this thread) saying it is Mikko and its not even close anymore.

 

[JohnnyBerts]

I felt like this was troll vote. Watched a lot of Avs and Leafs this year and Mikko is at another level imo. I mean totally different players, size, skill set .. but I would take Mikko over Mitch all day and I love Mitch (playoffs excluded).

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Wow. Seems like just yesterday that I was getting admonished by Leafs fans for not accepting Marner as the de facto 2nd best player from the 2015 draft.

 

[Plural]

Problem here is, Marner is not playing with fringe PO team. He's integral part of a legitimate contender on paper. I could understand and give him some leeway if he and Matthews were dragging the team in to playoffs, a'la Selanne/Kariya ducks. There just simply is no reason for this. Marner can still have a turnaround and god knows he's talented as they come. But as long as Rants keeps up with him in RS and absolutely destroys him in PO's I can't anymore vote for Marner. I retracted my vote of too close to call and voted Rants.

 

[jonlin]

Playoffs does factor in, but is there a huge difference simply because Marner has sucked in the playoffs? I'm not sure I think there is.

I still wait to see a positive input about a Finnish player from you? Hope there hasnt been a history with an elderly Finnish male...

 

[falconski]

Wow. Seems like just yesterday that I was getting admonished by Leafs fans for not accepting Marner as the de facto 2nd best player from the 2015 draft.

I 'member the Rantanen-Nylander arguments

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I still wait to see a positive input about a Finnish player from you? Hope there hasnt been a history with an elderly Finnish male...

There are so many things wrong with this post that I don’t even know where to start.