Value of: Mitch Marner Contract Mega-Thread Pt. 2

[hyduK]

Habs offer sheet Marner 12.5 x 7

Would be the greatest thing ever.

Marner would never sign that lol.


I can't see Marner signing some ridiculous offer sheet. The only way I see it happening is if Leafs truly play hardball and won't give him 11-11.5. In which case he signs an offer sheet for around that amount that he knows the Leafs will match.

 

[Torontoborn]

Habs offer sheet Marner 12.5 x 7

Would be the greatest thing ever.

Then you woke and realized a Maple Leaf in their prime wouldn't sign an offersheet to play for the Scabs. I am sure Marner wants to win better yet I am sure he wants to be in the playoffs.

 

[third man in]

Then you woke and realized a Maple Leaf in their prime wouldn't sign an offersheet to play for the Scabs. I am sure Marner wants to win better yet I am sure he wants to be in the playoffs.

Oh yeah, that steady stream of 1st round exits is so much more impressive than what the Habs are doing lol.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I would think Dubas wants to get MM locked in at 10M for 5 years. Once it gets to July 1st, that's an easy offer sheet to offer since you're not getting much if he were to sign an OS at something similar.

 

[Torontoborn]

Oh yeah, that steady stream of 1st round exits is so much more impressive than what the Habs are doing lol.

Lets look back! They took the caps the best team in the east to game 6 in which 5 games went to overtime, they took Boston to game 7 in back to back years where it could have went either way. Pretty good for a team that literally blew it up in season 2015-2016. The sky is the limit for this young team that is learning how to win and the habs are where?

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

Dubas running his mouth in the media and giving himself a self imposed 60 day timeline to get this deal done is not going to help keep the cost down. Neither is admitting fault in Nylander's deal.

 

[third man in]

Lets look back! They took the caps the best team in the east to game 6 in which 5 games went to overtime, they took Boston to game 7 in back to back years where it could have went either way. Pretty good for a team that literally blew it up in season 2015-2016. The sky is the limit for this young team that is learning how to win and the habs are where?

As these young players come off their ELC and get well paid, it's going to be harder and harder to put together a winner.

 

[Hunter368]

Dubas running his mouth in the media and giving himself a self imposed 60 day timeline to get this deal done is not going to help keep the cost down. Neither is admitting fault in Nylander's deal.

Agreed

Marner agent is leaning back in his chair, smiling ear to ear listening to Dubas in the media applying pressure on himself & the Leafs. Dubas needs to stop discussing contracts in the media, just hurting himself and the team.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Agreed

Marner agent is leaning back in his chair, smiling ear to ear listening to Dubas in the media applying pressure on himself & the Leafs. Dubas needs to stop discussing contracts in the media, just hurting himself and the team.

This entire site and media has been saying Marner will make 11M for this entire season now. What possibly does him saying that do? Make him ask for 12? He is getting paid no matter what.

And I think Dubas can't negotiate worth shit but honestly people. You are acting like he is worth 7 million and now is looking for 11. He lead the team in scoring 2 years in a row. He is getting paid regardless.

 

[Hunter368]

This entire site and media has been saying Marner will make 11M for this entire season now. What possibly does him saying that do? Make him ask for 12? He is getting paid no matter what.

And I think Dubas can't negotiate worth **** but honestly people. You are acting like he is worth 7 million and now is looking for 11. He lead the team in scoring 2 years in a row. He is getting paid regardless.

Entire site saying 11 million? I disagree, many have offered comparables in the 9-9.5 million range.

No one on this site has any impact or inside knowledge or influence in what Marner gets.......so don’t worry about what you read here.

 

[krt88nc]

Why wouldn’t Mitch not want exactly want Austin got? I big number, tons of protected money and more importantly, a shorter deal which gives him a second major contract in his prime!

Someone is gonna offer sheet him at 5/55m+ and say, heck we will either get a great player and lose draft picks or handicap the Leafs against the cap for next few years.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Lets look back! They took the caps the best team in the east to game 6 in which 5 games went to overtime, they took Boston to game 7 in back to back years where it could have went either way. Pretty good for a team that literally blew it up in season 2015-2016. The sky is the limit for this young team that is learning how to win and the habs are where?

4 points behind the mightly Leafs, having played a total of 7 games less, and uhmm... not in cap hell.

 

[justafan22]

4 points behind the mightly Leafs, having played a total of 7 games less, and uhmm... not in cap hell.

not in cap hell.

Cap space > having to pay good players, I guess.

 

[justafan22]

Oh yeah, that steady stream of 1st round exits is so much more impressive than what the Habs are doing lol.

both teams have accomplished jack squat lol

 

[justafan22]

I would think Dubas wants to get MM locked in at 10M for 5 years. Once it gets to July 1st, that's an easy offer sheet to offer since you're not getting much if he were to sign an OS at something similar.

Anything over 10.1 million is an overpay and I'd take the 4 1sts.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Anything over 10.1 million is an overpay and I'd take the 4 1sts.

It's likely gonna take $10.8M to get you into 4 1sts compensation.

 

[third man in]

both teams have accomplished jack squat lol

That was my point. He said Marner would want to play for a winner.

 

[justafan22]

It's likely gonna take $10.8M to get you into 4 1sts compensation.

It was 10.148,303 last year.

I'd say it'll be around 10.6

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

This entire site and media has been saying Marner will make 11M for this entire season now. What possibly does him saying that do? Make him ask for 12? He is getting paid no matter what.

And I think Dubas can't negotiate worth **** but honestly people. You are acting like he is worth 7 million and now is looking for 11. He lead the team in scoring 2 years in a row. He is getting paid regardless.

I think most people, other than a handful of Leafs fans all agree that the deal will be in the 10.5-11 range. Everything in the Marner negotiation will be about term. Matthews got a premium salary and it cost him only 1 UFA year. 3 years likely isn't going to happen, Marner is not taking a bridge deal while Tavares, Nylander and Matthews cashed in. 4 years is worst case, as it walks him right to UFA. 5 years is terrible as you then have AM, WN, MM all going to UFA at the same time. Dubas is going to want a 6-7 year deal at 5 year money. He is shooting himself in the foot by saying too much.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If a team has a ton of cap space, and feel they’re fairly close to the playoffs, why wouldn’t they offer sheet 12.5 x 7?

The Leafs fans in here who think Marner wouldn’t instantly sign that are living in a fantasy. If he sees that money he signs it.

Now would the Leafs match is an entirely different story.

 

[hawksrule]

Serious question, this isn’t a dig at the leafs. But do they have any realistic way of paying all their top guys while avoiding cap hell?

 

[TheDoldrums]

If a team has a ton of cap space, and feel they’re fairly close to the playoffs, why wouldn’t they offer sheet 12.5 x 7?

The Leafs fans in here who think Marner wouldn’t instantly sign that are living in a fantasy. If he sees that money he signs it.

Ottawa felt they were fair close to the playoffs. They just traded one 1st rounder, nevermind 4.

I would take 4 1st round picks without hesitation if the alternative is overpaying Marner to that degree. I don't think people here realize how risky giving up 4 consecutive unprotected 1st rounders can be. The Brooklyn Nets didn't even go that far and their trade with the Celtics set them back for half a decade.

 

[Martin Skoula]

If a team has a ton of cap space, and feel they’re fairly close to the playoffs, why wouldn’t they offer sheet 12.5 x 7?

The Leafs fans in here who think Marner wouldn’t instantly sign that are living in a fantasy. If he sees that money he signs it.

Now would the Leafs match is an entirely different story.

I don't think he'd want to give up that many UFA years for 12.5. A 26-27 year old Marner under a 95+ million dollar cap is going to easily make 15+.

 

[Torontoborn]

4 points behind the mightly Leafs, having played a total of 7 games less, and uhmm... not in cap hell.

Yup! Everyone knows that Montreal overperfomed and having the best goalie in the world hides a lot of deficiencies. Let's see where they land next year.

 

[Hunter368]

Serious question, this isn’t a dig at the leafs. But do they have any realistic way of paying all their top guys while avoiding cap hell?

Any team can sign their top guys, that isn’t the issue. The issue is maintaining required depth while signing their top guys. Tough for all top teams, not just the Leafs.