Miscellaneous NHL Talk XXXIII - Are We There Yet? (September edition)

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Ottawa just extended Chabot for 8 years $8 million per. He's likely worth it.

Can't believe Melnyk signed off on that. He's swimming in debt apparently.
 

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If you're using one exceptional season, especially in a small sample size, to prove that you are 'one of the best' - it is 100% betting.

He's been the best defensemen on every team he's ever been on. Safe to assume he's going to continue to be Ottawa's #1 and perform at a very high level.

55 points in 70 games and a +6.1 Relative Corsi as a sophomore defensemen with very little talent around you is pretty outrageous.
 

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He's been the best defensemen on every team he's ever been on. Safe to assume he's going to continue to be Ottawa's #1 and perform at a very high level.

55 points in 70 games and a +6.1 Relative Corsi as a sophomore defensemen with very little talent around you is pretty outrageous.

I'm not saying it wasnt a smart bet.
 

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He's been the best defensemen on every team he's ever been on. Safe to assume he's going to continue to be Ottawa's #1 and perform at a very high level.

55 points in 70 games and a +6.1 Relative Corsi as a sophomore defensemen with very little talent around you is pretty outrageous.
Context is important. The overall shooting % and team productivity actually went up over 10% last season, for Ottawa- mainly because of the new goaltending equipment changes.

This was expected: more goals and higher scoring games.

Chabot won’t be under a 10% of the cap type player unless the TV deal creates a TON of money.

Statistically speaking, if you normalize Ottawa’s production going back to their ECF year, Chabots stat line would look like: 11G - 34A - 45P.

Now, I’m not saying he isn’t worth the contract. He did amazing on a joke of a team. If goaltenders figure out better angles with their equipment, with the lack of talent in OTT, that line could be what Chabot will have. I don’t think he’s worth being a top 7 paid Dman, potential is a slippery slope to bet on, but it’s something OTT should have done.

Good for them for the deal. Any more shenanigans there and Melnyk would’ve seen an uprising. I just think that 1 year of elite player is a bold move for a long term, high cap % deal (Backloading too).

Amazing player. Not trying to degrade in any sense. Recency bias makes our judgements convoluted. I’d be a hypocrite to say I am not a part of this.
 

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Still a gross overpay, 4 RFA years, figure $24M is top dollar, that means he's getting $10M a year for his 4 UFA seasons.
So he has to turn out to be Karlsson good to justify this deal.

Thing with Sanheim, 2yr-$6.5M, 2yr-$10M?, 4-36M ($9M a year for his UFA seasons) ?
- 8 years, $52.5M - $6.55M a year
or 10 years, $70M - $7M a year.
So even if Flyers end up giving him 8yr/$64M with 2 RFA years left, they still come out ahead with the bridge.
 
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