Miscellaneous NHL Talk Part VII: The Not-So Lazy Hazy Crazy Days Of Summer

[sg12lw]

my guess:

he saw clarkson's deal and said, "im only making 1.4 million more than david clarkson? **** this league, im out"

 

[sobrien]

1. Penguins
2. Flyers
3. Capitals/Rangers/Islanders
4. Capitals/Rangers/Islanders
5. Capitals/Rangers/Islanders
6. Blue Jackets
7. Hurricanes
8. Devils

I'm liking our division right now...

I'm banking on:

Pens
Flyers
Rangers
Blue Jackets
Capitals
Hurricanes
Devils

 

[Prongo]

I dont think Lou did anything wrong here, Kovy just seems to miss his home country. He did kinda screw them by doing this now after free agency and the draft, where Lou would have been able to try and replace him somewhat. You can't predict these types of things at all. I am still shocked when I just saw the news.

 

[CS]

I'm banking on:

Pens
Flyers
Rangers
Blue Jackets
Capitals
Hurricanes
Devils

islanders?

 

[Alchemy]

I'm sure it was family reasons he was ready to go back. Don't really blame him.

On the other hand the devils are screwed and I am loving it. What a pathetic offensive team now. They will be bottom dwellers for years to come.

 

[sobrien]

The Canes won't be that bad next year. They would have been in the hunt for a playoff spot if Ward didn't go down last year.

They won't be bad, but the rest of the division will be really good.

 

[sobrien]

islanders?

oops. After the Caps, slightly above the Canes

 

[CS]

Can't look it up right now, but anybody got the numbers of salary per year for Kovy? How much did he make? How much did he leave on the table?

I'm assuming he ate all the $10m years and left the rest...

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I dont think Lou did anything wrong here, Kovy just seems to miss his home country. He did kinda screw them by doing this now after free agency and the draft, where Lou would have been able to try and replace him somewhat. You can't predict these types of things at all. I am still shocked when I just saw the news.

Kovy told Lou at the beginning of the year upon returning from Russia that there was a good chance he may retire at the end of the season to return home.

You also have to take into account that not forfeiting the 29th pick in the 2011 draft looks even dumber now if that's even possible.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I feel bad for devils fans

My heart goes out to all hundred of them.

 

[kudymen]

Can't look it up right now, but anybody got the numbers of salary per year for Kovy? How much did he make? How much did he leave on the table?

I'm assuming he ate all the $10m years and left the rest...

He was supposed to make $11.8M until 2017-18, not sure about the rest

Edit:

2010-11 $6,000,000
2011-12 $6,000,000
2012-13 $11,000,000
2013-14 $11,300,000
2014-15 $11,300,000
2015-16 $11,600,000
2016-17 $11,800,000
2017-18 $10,000,000
2018-19 $7,000,000
2019-20 $4,000,000
2020-21 $1,000,000
2021-22 $1,000,000
2022-23 $1,000,000
2023-24 $3,000,000
2024-25 $4,000,000

 

[Coffe]

Can't look it up right now, but anybody got the numbers of salary per year for Kovy? How much did he make? How much did he leave on the table?

I'm assuming he ate all the $10m years and left the rest...

2010-11 $6,000,000
2011-12 $6,000,000
2012-13 $11,000,000
2013-14 $11,300,000
2014-15 $11,300,000
2015-16 $11,600,000
2016-17 $11,800,000
2017-18 $10,000,000
2018-19 $7,000,000
2019-20 $4,000,000
2020-21 $1,000,000
2021-22 $1,000,000
2022-23 $1,000,000
2023-24 $3,000,000
2024-25 $4,000,000

Leaving $77 million on the table...

Edit: The cap-penalty for the Devils are only $250,000 a year until 24-25.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

can't look it up right now, but anybody got the numbers of salary per year for kovy? How much did he make? How much did he leave on the table?

I'm assuming he ate all the $10m years and left the rest...

2013-14 $11,300,000
2014-15 $11,300,000
2015-16 $11,600,000
2016-17 $11,800,000
2017-18 $10,000,000
2018-19 $7,000,000
2019-20 $4,000,000
2020-21 $1,000,000
2021-22 $1,000,000
2022-23 $1,000,000
2023-24 $3,000,000
2024-25 $4,000,000

 

[cheesesteak]

Damn that sucks for Devils fans not that we should feel sympathy for them. Don't they lose their 2014 1st too?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They won't be bad, but the rest of the division will be really good.

We'll see I would take them over the Blue Jackets, Islanders, Devils & Caps.

 

[sobrien]

Can't look it up right now, but anybody got the numbers of salary per year for Kovy? How much did he make? How much did he leave on the table?

I'm assuming he ate all the $10m years and left the rest...

approx $77 million left on the table.

 

[Beef Invictus]

approx $77 million left on the table.

I would have to think his KHL contract will make up for it. He'll probably make something absurd over there.

 

[Philadelphia Ducks]

Damn that sucks for Devils fans not that we should feel sympathy for them. Don't they lose their 2014 1st too?

Yea, they did. But the NHL will give it back to them, I figured the NHL would remove that penalty when the time cam anyways, but now this will just cement it. I'm loving this sudden retirement though. **** the Debbies. I'm seeing a lot of people talking about how they mutually 'voided' the deal, is this even legal in the CBA? I don't see how he could even playin the KHL now. And if this is legal, what is to stop us from just voiding Pronger's/Stret/Lecavalier deals in the future if they agree to it?

 

[kudymen]

I would have to think his KHL contract will make up for it. He'll probably make something absurd over there.

Reminds me of this tweet:

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 1m
@wyshynski More... He received approximately $15 million during the lockout, per my KHL-direct source.

Yea, they did. But the NHL will give it back to them, I figured the NHL would remove that penalty when the time cam anyways, but now this will just cement it. I'm loving this sudden retirement though. **** the Debbies. I'm seeing a lot of people talking about how they mutually 'voided' the deal, is this even legal in the CBA? I don't see how he could even playin the KHL now. And if this is legal, what is to stop us from just voiding Pronger's/Stret/Lecavalier deals in the future if they agree to it?

Yes this could be a very dangerous precedent

 

[sobrien]

I would have to think his KHL contract will make up for it. He'll probably make something absurd over there.

Totally. I think he'll be back in a few years trying to win a Cup though.

 

[healthyscratch]

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski
In talking with someone close to Devils: Kovalchuk very tight with KHL money men. Source speculation: "Could make $50M in 5 years there."

 

[sobrien]

Reminds me of this tweet:





Yes this could be a very dangerous precedent

Pronger's is a 35+ deal. Won't matter who agrees to it I imagine. It'll still count against us. I assume Streit's and Vinny's will be similar.

 

[healthyscratch]

And if this is legal, what is to stop us from just voiding Pronger's/Stret/Lecavalier deals in the future if they agree to it?

It's pretty simple.

Both parties need to agree to void the contract. Pronger can't go make 50m in the KHL, so he wouldn't agree to void his contract. He still wants to get paid.

 

[JDinkalage Morgoone]

This sucks for the Devils right now but he saved the Devils from a horrific cap recapture penalty had he done this in 5-7 years.

 

[Philadelphia Ducks]

It's pretty simple.

Both parties need to agree to void the contract. Pronger can't go make 50m in the KHL, so he wouldn't agree to void his contract. He still wants to get paid.

I can understand him wanting to hold onto the deal for now, but in 2 years and for the last 2 years of his contract he is only making 500k. So he might not be wanting to handcuff the team with that 5 million cap hit when he can just void the contract, which I could easily see him doing as he seems like a solid team player.