Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LIX: Great Expectations by Charles Dickens and oh the #13 Lottery Pick

[Beef Invictus]

I would describe the Jets as disorganized.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Here's a stat for you, @JojoTheWhale, that maybe supports your argument that the Avs should have slowed things down vs the Blues.

Since 2001, there have been six series that pitted a team that swept its previous opponent vs a team that went 7 games vs its previous opponent. All six times, the team that went 7 in the previous round won. There's another going on right now: Avs vs Knights.

2021 - Habs vs Jets
2019 - Bruins vs Blue Jackets
2019 - Hurricanes vs Isles
2009 - Hurricanes vs Bruins
2003 - Devils vs Ducks
2001 - Avs vs Blues

 

[Beef Invictus]

Gonna be a loooooong summer for Scheif

I presume that extra game will cost him a lot more money too. I believe playoff pay is escrow split among players so if he's forfeiting that it's gonna be a hell of a lot less than his regular check.

I'm not sure it works that way though. Never thought about it before.

Edit: I imagine players just get their share regardless of suspension, so either way it's gonna cost a ton more

 

[FlyerNutter]

I would describe the Jets as disorganized.

Maurice leads the NHL with most career losses.

Is he fully at fault? No - but he’s been behind that bench for far too long. The constant dump ins, and no adjustments was like a Flyer game.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Look of a GM that gets to keep his job.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Look of a GM that gets to keep his job.

That's my guy!

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Look of a GM that gets to keep his job.

Last time I saw a GM that happy to advance to Conference Final he got demoted two months later (Dale Tallon summer of 09)

Interestingly days after Tallon was demoted Bergevin was promoted by his successor to Director of Player Personnel

 

[Rebels57]

The Madrigal aka DanTheFlyeraDan is at it again with the awful trade proposals on the main boards

 

[Striiker]

Hey @Captain Dave Poulin, you 'member a few months back when most of this board was shoulder-to-shoulder with Madrigal, defending Fletcher/AV/Hayes honor?

 

[sabremike]

 

[ajgoal]

Didnt even call him! Totally f***ing baffling.

Is it really?

 

[Cody Webster]

7 straight for the Habs? Rollin'.

Ever since Gus joined the lineup!

 

[Cody Webster]

Meanwhile in Montreal....

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Hey @Captain Dave Poulin, you 'member a few months back when most of this board was shoulder-to-shoulder with Madrigal, defending Fletcher/AV/Hayes honor?

It's understandable, after that historic postseason run.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

You know we're getting a Montreal-Isles final, right?

My preseason pick was Montreal-Vegas even unaware of the format rules. That will be Eddie Mush'd.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

It's not like the Islanders ever won a Stanley Cup based on the decisions of the NHL and on-ice officials. Oh, wait!

Islanders 5, Bruins 4: Cassidy frustrated with officiating as late comeback falls short – Boston Herald

But Cassidy absolutely unloaded his frustration on referees Francis Charron and Francois St. Laurent, while taking aim at the Islanders’ hierarchy of GM Lou Lamoriello and coach Barry Trotz as well.

“This is my take on it. We’re playing a team that has a very respected management and coaching staff who won a Stanley Cup. But I think they sell a narrative over there that it’s more like the New York Saints and not the New York Islanders, that they play hard, they play the right way. But I feel we play the same way and the exact calls that are getting called on us do not get called on them,” said a slow-burning Cassidy.

“And I don’t know why. These are very good officials. They’re at this point in the season for a reason. They miss high sticks every game, the exact same high sticks. … Maybe we need to sell them more and flop, but that’s not us. But they don’t see them. And it’s not like the same calls aren’t going against us. It’s not like I’m sitting there and going ‘every call against us sucks.’ It’s just at the end of the day, the similar plays, they can be penalized on those plays. But like I said, they’ve done a great job selling that narrative that they’re clean. They play hard, it’s a hard brand of hockey. I love the way they play, but they commit as many infractions as we do, trust me. It’s just a matter of calling them.”​

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Trotz does seem to be the beneficiary of lenient officiating -- maybe that's an advantage of having been an NHL coach for so long, and I suppose he's developed a good rapport with many officials. The interference the Isles got away with in the bubble playoffs against the Flyers was extremely aggravating.

I don't blame Cassidy for venting his frustration and trying to get in the refs heads before an elimination game. That said, there were weak calls and missed calls on both teams last night. And the crosscheck to Barzal's head was as blatant a penalty as they come; frankly borders on suspension-worthy in this day and age.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Here's a stat for you, @JojoTheWhale, that maybe supports your argument that the Avs should have slowed things down vs the Blues.

Since 2001, there have been six series that pitted a team that swept its previous opponent vs a team that went 7 games vs its previous opponent. All six times, the team that went 7 in the previous round won. There's another going on right now: Avs vs Knights.

2021 - Habs vs Jets
2019 - Bruins vs Blue Jackets
2019 - Hurricanes vs Isles
2009 - Hurricanes vs Bruins
2003 - Devils vs Ducks
2001 - Avs vs Blues

I would bet anything that this checks out historically, too. It feels like it's always this way.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

The Madrigal aka DanTheFlyeraDan is at it again with the awful trade proposals on the main boards

Could you tag me in it.so I can see lol I actually forgot how the hell to get to the main boards from.my phone lmao

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Trotz does seem to be the beneficiary of lenient officiating -- maybe that's an advantage of having been an NHL coach for so long, and I suppose he's developed a good rapport with many officials. The interference the Isles got away with in the bubble playoffs against the Flyers was extremely aggravating.

I don't blame Cassidy for venting his frustration and trying to get in the refs heads before an elimination game. That said, there were weak calls and missed calls on both teams last night. And the crosscheck to Barzal's head was as blatant a penalty as they come; frankly borders on suspension-worthy in this day and age.

Trotz isn't a whiner on ice (At least not that I remember when he was with Preds)

Occasionally he will get mad or have post game comments but he isn't one of those coaches that annoys officials with the constant bitching and moaning

Cassidy on other hand comes off as a whiner so I can see refs being even less likely to care what he is complaining about

To me officiating overall in series has been fine from what I have seen. B's and Isles have done stupid things right in front of refs and refs will make calls

 

[Striiker]

Could you tag me in it.so I can see lol I actually forgot how the hell to get to the main boards from.my phone lmao

Proposal: - Seth Jones to Philly....

 

[Striiker]

It's understandable, after that historic postseason run.

On the bright side, everyone learned their lesson and we won’t need to see that kind of rabid anti-logic circlejerk again, right?



… right?





……… right?

 

[Tripod]

Gonna be a loooooong summer for Scheif

So not only did he have to sit and watch his teammmates get swept, but he now loses a bunch more money now because of having to miss a reg season game vs a playoff game.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Deadpool8812]

Can never count on the Jets to get anything done.