Minor League Thread 2017-18: Part VIII

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  1. nyr2k2

    nyr2k2 Can't Beat Her

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    Just a note on play-by-play. This isn't a criticism of Beacon, whom I have had my differences with over the years but still appreciate and respect. But--even those play-by-plays are subjective. Look no further than a GDT or PGT to see this. There's a play that happens and five different opinions on why. One person thinks it's just a softie, someone else thinks the D should have left his man and gone to the front of the net, or another the C lost his man getting back, etc. Lots of different ways to analyze a play. Even something seemingly objective is often subjective. Half of the PGT is usually debating this kind of stuff.

    Hell, half of the time the guys on TV give you the breakdown and I disagree with it.
     
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    Mac n Gs Gorton plz

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    I like Zboro’s defensive game a lot, but it’s all moot if he doesn’t improve his skating. Straight line speed is there, but it’s his lateral agility that’s rough. I didn’t hate his puck movement, even though I know there were some scouting reports that said it was subpar.
     
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    I hate to break it to all Zboro lovers here... he is just not that good to be a regular in the AHL at this stage. And in case you are wondering, I am watching many Pack games and keep an eye on certain people.

    Unless he does a 180 like John Gilmour - who last season I was vouching for to get a 9-5 job and today he is playing in the NHL - things are not gonna look too good for Zboro.
     
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    Minor transactions: Halverson and Leedahl sent back to Greenville, Shawn O'Donnell released from his PTO with Hartford.

    Wild ride for Halverson, playing in the ECHL, AHL and NHL all in the same year.
     
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    That's the thing with prospects, everyone develops (or doesnt) at different paces. Zboro could improve leaps and bounds next season. However, when the prospect in question needs to improve skating first and foremost, that's a major red flag for me.
     
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    Mats Zuccarelli New Yawk Rainjuzz

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    How's Bigras playing for Hartford?
     
  7. nyr2k2

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    We haven't had anyone in Greenville recently so I haven't paid them any attention. Apparently they're 0-10-3 in their last 13. Yikes. They still play horrendous defense (3.98 GA/G), they just stopped scoring. What an awful bunch.
     
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    Trickled down effect of a first year of rebuild?
     
  9. nyr2k2

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    I think it's mainly that they started off really hot and had some great chemistry, then Hartford called up a few guys, some other were sent packing, and it all fell apart. Like Caleb Herbert was one of their stars, he gets called up for a bit then signs an AHL deal with San Jose. Allan McPherson was huge for them but then left to play in Switzerland. Adam Chapie had 17 points in 11 games before being called up and later traded. Leedahl has 20 points in 20 games but has spent more than half the season thus far with Hartford. Zborovskiy's offense completely disappeared after 20 or so games but he was still a decent player for them. Branden Troock was traded for futures when it started going downhill. Four of their "guys" from when they were scoring in bunches are gone from the organization, that's tough for any team to handle. Plus as I said those other guys spending time in Hartford.

    Look at what it's done to their goaltending. Their top two goalies have been Ty Rimmer and Halverson, who respectively have GAA's of 3.89 and 3.87 and SV%'s of .901 and .900. They're giving up four goal per game but stopping 90% of the shots. What does that tell you? Though maybe with a stud ECHL goalie they'd be faring a little better, who knows.
     
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    Stopping 90% of shots but having a 4GAA means they are facing, on average, 40 shots a game. That's insane. Stud goalie or not if your facing 40 plus shots a night game after game your team isn't winning many games.
     
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    Brooklyn Rangers Fan Change is good.

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    Thanks for the heads up. This finally got me to plunk my dough down and give The Athletic a try. Enjoyed the article.

    Always liked Carp. Folks may not agree with his analysis, but he's the last (non-Brooks) NYR beat writer to actually put in a real effort, dig for stories, come up with interesting angles, and engage with fans. Glad he's found a home covering the team again.
     
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    He's also definitely gotten better from where he used to be, imo
     
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    Signing a 34-year old ECHL goalie to a PTO rather than recalling Brandon Halverson from ECHL Greenville is all I need to know how the NYR org. sees Halvy...
     
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    Didn't Jakaitis play in the organization years back? Familiar name.
     
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    Just checked his EP page and it doesn't look like he did.
     
  17. nyr2k2

    nyr2k2 Can't Beat Her

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    I think the Checkers might have still been our ECHL affiliate that year he played for them, but they've moved around and I could be wrong. I may just be remembering him from something else.
     
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    No, you're right. I did a bit more digging. Apparently we sold the Checkers in 2010.
     
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    yeah look at these names ....
    Charlotte Checkers 2008-09 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com
    Ryan Hillier, Lee Falardeau, Tomas Zaborsky, Mike Busto, Tysen Dowzak, David Urquhart
     
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    nyr2k2 Can't Beat Her

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    I was sure Zaborsky was going to make it. He did, just not in the US, LOL. Hillier injured himself and never really recovered IIRC. Dowzak was the guy bern inexplicably (even by his standards) kept penciling into the NHL lineup.
     
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    Thirty One Safe is safe.

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    I've only read the first little bit, but this line made me chuckle.

    "Gorton had begun his rebuild with the trade of center Derek Stepan and goalie Antti Raanta to Arizona for, among other things, the Coyotes’ first-round pick, No. 7 overall."

    I'm not DeAngelo's biggest fan, but he deserves more respect than that!
     
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    “Among other things”. Instead of ADA we should refer to him as AOT.
     
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    Lindberg Cheese Report to Carousel

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    This is what a tank looks like, these guys don’t have the record for this pose
     
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    Zborovskiy a healthy scratch tonight. Go figure...
     
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