Rumor: Minnesota might be looking to trade for Tokarski
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groovejuice
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He was outstanding until Price got injured.
Could be he lost some confidence. I'd spend a 6th or 5th rounder to get him back.
Could be he lost some confidence. I'd spend a 6th or 5th rounder to get him back.
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SOLR
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Tokarski is pretty close to a starter. He is probably in the top 40 Gs and he is not getting a lot of opportunities so he might be top 30. Not saying they would overpay for that, but it is possible.
groovejuice
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Clearly, if Minny is hot on Tokarski you add on to get a useful player. Otherwise, it's a useless move.
LastRide
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Toke or Fucale might be a better option as part of package to land a player from the Oilers. They need a goalie too. If the Wild are willing to part with a player that can actually help us out, or a good prospect. Than it might be worth a look.
We are stuck with no solid backup. I am not so sure MB does this unless he has something up his sleeve.
macavoy
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You know nothing about developing goalies. The majority of good goalies in the NHL have spent 2.5 years in the AHL and then 2.5 years as a back up before they were legit starters.
I'm obviously excluding blue chip goalies drafted in the top 5.
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How does this help the Habs? Kuemper has been
horrible lately, and is currently
on IR. I'd rather have Tokarski.
Agreed....only trade Toker for a player coming back...then promote one of the guys in Hamilton...but then if Price gets injured,
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The Leafs did it for Bernier. The Devils did it for Schneider. Granted he wasn't a true backup but he wasn't a true starter either. If they're interested, they must figure he has what it takes to be a starter and I agree with them. He's a starter. His bad luck is he's behind one of the top 3-5 goalies in the world.
How many more games you figure Tokarski will play this year? 6? 7? For those worried about driving around without a spare, part of the deal could be they send us one of their back up - Kuemper.
Jeeze, I just went to look at their prospect pool and they have next to nothing down on the farm. And people on this board complain about Timmins.
The Wild management will probably not want to give up anything on their roster but they got diddly squat in their prospect pool.
How about a 1st, Chuck Fletcher?
Habs: Tokarski and a 5th let's say.
Wild: 1st and Keumper
Kick them when they're down, I say. I'm willing to trade Tokarski if they're willing to over pay; otherwise go elsewhere, Chuckie.
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Barring a overpayment I rather that we keep Tokarski.
Excellent back-up who can fill-in for an injured starter. What more can we ask for? Unless we are getting an early round pick, or a solid young roster player I'm not interested in trading him.
Excellent back-up who can fill-in for an injured starter. What more can we ask for? Unless we are getting an early round pick, or a solid young roster player I'm not interested in trading him.
canadiensnation
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The wild should go after Reimer or Ward instead of backups like Toker, Svedberg etc..
With Kuemper and one of Reimer or Ward you create a decent 1a, 1b situation albeit not the best tandem but better than what they have now.
With Kuemper and one of Reimer or Ward you create a decent 1a, 1b situation albeit not the best tandem but better than what they have now.
Tokarski
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Kahkonen and/or a 2nd? Only way I could see us doing this is if a goalie in their system interests us and they're giving away a pick with it.
Somebody said Vanek, I doubt they're going to give up on him yet.
I agree, however it's likely because they don't want to pay the price a 1a/1b would cost, especially one like Ward where it's really no guarantee he'll perform.
They're probably thinking they have nothing to lose by inquiring about a 2a here or there (especially one with potential to be a 1b) because it could be a lot cheaper and yield a very similar result. I can't see Toker blowing games left and right for them, and while he won't steal you any games either probably, he's a safer option than Ward is if the price is right. Imagine how bad they'd be off if they got Ward paying a hefty price and he sucked? I don't think Minny is good enough a team to trade away the future just yet. Imo, very smart idea by their GM to look into cheaper options.
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Kahkonen and/or a 2nd? Only way I could see us doing this is if a goalie in their system interests us and they're giving away a pick with it.
Somebody said Vanek, I doubt they're going to give up on him yet.
I agree, however it's likely because they don't want to pay the price a 1a/1b would cost, especially one like Ward where it's really no guarantee he'll perform.
They're probably thinking they have nothing to lose by inquiring about a 2a here or there (especially one with potential to be a 1b) because it could be a lot cheaper and yield a very similar result. I can't see Toker blowing games left and right for them, and while he won't steal you any games either probably, he's a safer option than Ward is if the price is right. Imagine how bad they'd be off if they got Ward paying a hefty price and he sucked? I don't think Minny is good enough a team to trade away the future just yet. Imo, very smart idea by their GM to look into cheaper options.
Wonder if a package of Tokarski, Pateryn and Desharnais could get something decent for the habs??
Not sure there is a real logical fit right now in a deal involving Tokarski, unless they add something substantial to get a solid piece what is the point?
Almost without a doubt any trade involving Tokarski will hurt the Habs' NHL goalie depth.
If a team would give up a 2nd or a 3rd in 2015? Maybe you have to consider it, but no team is doing that I don't think.
Not sure there is a real logical fit right now in a deal involving Tokarski, unless they add something substantial to get a solid piece what is the point?
Almost without a doubt any trade involving Tokarski will hurt the Habs' NHL goalie depth.
If a team would give up a 2nd or a 3rd in 2015? Maybe you have to consider it, but no team is doing that I don't think.
I agree with you but it has to be worthwhile for the Habs too. Tokarski as a decent/solid back up at undre 600K for another season after this one and still restricted is a great deal for the Habs.
Can't expect Fucale to come in and play NHL back up any time soon, and it's likely they get a more expensive inferior replacement.
No interest for a 2nd pick to lose a solid back up able to go somewhere if Price is Kreidered
Never liked Tokarski. Quite often out of position, makes himself small in nets, can't play the puck out of the net, and gives huge rebounds very often.
As a result, the whole team has to play crazy defense. He won't last long in the league. I'd do the trade in a heartbeat.
As a result, the whole team has to play crazy defense. He won't last long in the league. I'd do the trade in a heartbeat.
I woudln't say I have no interest, it's a tough call.
Goalies don't have much trade value, back up goalies behind elite goalies will really never have great value.
At some point his contract demands will get a bit higher, and he might realize some more of his potential as well...so trading him will likely be a consideration at some point.
If they want Tokarski, they better be ready to overpay for him. His value is only going to increase with the years.
It might increase some, but he might just be worth a 3rd or 4th rounder in a couple of years as wlel. No guarantee at all his value goes up any.
I do agree though, no real reason to trade him unless it's a "blowed away" offer.
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