Value of: Minnesota Embraces the Rebuild: Fire Sale

[Mickey Marner]

Unfortunately for Wild fans, MGMT continually hitches their wagon to the wrong core, ensuring a decade of bubble-team status. It's all the 30+ guys that need to go. Staal should return a 1st at the deadline, but otherwise, they all appear to be in this for the long haul.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Unfortunately for Wild fans, MGMT continually hitches their wagon to the wrong core, ensuring a decade of bubble-team status. It's all the 30+ guys that need to go. Staal should return a 1st at the deadline, but otherwise, they all appear to be in this for the long haul.

sadly we knew this before this year.

 

[AKL]

Unfortunately for Wild fans, MGMT continually hitches their wagon to the wrong core, ensuring a decade of bubble-team status. It's all the 30+ guys that need to go. Staal should return a 1st at the deadline, but otherwise, they all appear to be in this for the long haul.

It’s ownership that hitched their wagon to Suter, Parise, Koivu, Zuccarello, etc. Now there’s no way to trade these guys because they all have NMC’s. Leipold rushed in to the Suter/Parise signings and now he wants to see a return on his $200M investment so he’ll keep throwing money at guys like Zuccarello this summer to hopefully stay relevant.

With 6 years left on the Suter/Parise contracts, a very down year this season might be the best thing for us. We have Boldy and Kaprizov coming through next year, the year after. We have some other decent prospects who could be big players in the future.

I agree, players like Staal, Koivu, Zuccarello and Zucker should be moved if possible (only because Suter/Parise aren’t moveable at all). I don’t think moving guys like Fiala, Kunin, Donato, Greenway and Eriksson Ek is smart at this point unless we’re getting a clear upgrade on them. They can slot in as the solid youngish depth behind Boldy, Kaprizov and whoever we get in the first this year.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Sell high on Rask...any 1st will do.

 

[TaLoN]

Wild won, so fire sale is off... we're going to finish 78-4-0 and win the cup now!

 

[AKL]

Wild won, so fire sale is off... we're going to finish 78-4-0 and win the cup now!

On the backs of Victor Rask and Brad Hunt

 

[TaLoN]

On the backs of Victor Rask and Brad Hunt

Rask with the Smythe, Hunt the Norris!

 

[57special]

Parise with his second goal, which he got by falling into an EN while flailing at the puck. His first was off his butt.

I would send Fiala to EDM for Pulju and a 2nd. Stinks, because I'd far rather have Granlund, but I'm in a gambling mood at this point. It's still possible that Fiala ends up being nothing more than a short Pulju. The guy has tools, but...can also use a RHS forward.

 

[AKL]

Parise with his second goal, which he got by falling into an EN while flailing at the puck. His first was off his butt.

I would send Fiala to EDM for Pulju and a 2nd. Stinks, because I'd far rather have Granlund, but I'm in a gambling mood at this point. It's still possible that Fiala ends up being nothing more than a short Pulju. The guy has tools, but...can also use a RHS forward.

You must not be a very good gambler taking odds like that.

 

[Richard88]

What would Minnesota want from Colorado for Zucker?

 

[PuckInTheNards]

What would Minnesota want from Colorado for Zucker?

Jost And a small add?

 

[TaLoN]

What would Minnesota want from Colorado for Zucker?

We need a center (right shot preferable but not reqired) and/or a right shot rw. I haven't gone over the Avs roster/prospects, what are you willing to offer?

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

Parise with his second goal, which he got by falling into an EN while flailing at the puck. His first was off his butt.

I would send Fiala to EDM for Pulju and a 2nd. Stinks, because I'd far rather have Granlund, but I'm in a gambling mood at this point. It's still possible that Fiala ends up being nothing more than a short Pulju. The guy has tools, but...can also use a RHS forward.

Not sure that's good value

 

[Richard88]

Jost And a small add?

We need a center (right shot preferable but not reqired) and/or a right shot rw. I haven't gone over the Avs roster/prospects, what are you willing to offer?

Jost and perhaps a mid round pick for Zucker is a deal I think most Avs fans would be fine with.

Avs have an over-abundance of center depth and could use a proper top 6 winger.

Bowers/Newhook are joining at C soon, and with Mackinnon, Kadri, Compher, and Bellemare already on the roster it makes sense to move Jost for someone who fits the top 6 wing position a bit better.

Jost is an RFA this summer so his value to Colorado decreases after this season, but he’d still be a good young player for a rebuilding team to acquire.

 

[AKL]

Jost and perhaps a mid round pick for Zucker is a deal I think most Avs fans would be fine with.

Avs have an over-abundance of center depth and could use a proper top 6 winger.

Bowers/Newhook are joining at C soon, and with Mackinnon, Kadri, Compher, and Bellemare already on the roster it makes sense to move Jost for someone who fits the top 6 wing position a bit better.

Jost is an RFA this summer so his value to Colorado decreases after this season, but he’d still be a good young player for a rebuilding team to acquire.

Does Jost even play center? Newhook doesn’t.

 

[TaLoN]

I wonder if Jost's size would make him a better wing than center. If that's the case, then he ends up addressing neither need for us.

 

[Richard88]

Does Jost even play center? Newhook doesn’t.

Jost is a more natural fit at center than on the wing. Bednar specifically commented on it after last game too, something to the effect of Jost having less thinking and more work to do as a center, which he thinks works better for him.

 

[TaLoN]

Jost is a more natural fit at center than on the wing. Bednar specifically commented on it after last game too, something to the effect of Jost having less thinking and more work to do as a center, which he thinks works better for him.

People used to say the same for Granlund, but then it was later proven that Granlund was simply a better player across the board at wing.

Not saying 5'11" players can't play center, but larger players tend to have more success there due to the defensive responsibilities of the position.

 

[Bazeek]

I don't see the point in moving Zucker for Jost (with whatever adds). We wouldn't need cap space and long term it's unlikely that Jost develops into a better player than Zucker.

 

[2Pair]

I don't see the point in moving Zucker for Jost (with whatever adds). We wouldn't need cap space and long term it's unlikely that Jost develops into a better player than Zucker.

Newhook is the name I would be interested in

 

[Bazeek]

Newhook is the name I would be interested in

That'd be interesting, even if it's mostly because I plan to be keeping an eye on him anyway.

 

[Tripod]

When Hextall was interviewed for the GM job, he said they should rebuild and that was part of the reason he was not hired. Didn't tell owner what he wanted to hear.

But hey...owner knows best.

 

[57special]

Jost....he's young, and was drafted high, but he's shown next to nothing in the NHL so far. We'd have to scout the crap out of him before we send our most dangerous forward(yes, it's come to that)away in trade.

At this point, MN is chock full of young forwards who haven't shown anything in the NHL. Ek, Fiala, Donato, Kunin, Greenway...would Jost be any different?

Oh, and trading Zucker would make us the slowest team in the league.

 

[2Pair]

When Hextall was interviewed for the GM job, he said they should rebuild and that was part of the reason he was not hired. Didn't tell owner what he wanted to hear.

But hey...owner knows best.

Source?

 

[Bazeek]

When Hextall was interviewed for the GM job, he said they should rebuild and that was part of the reason he was not hired. Didn't tell owner what he wanted to hear.

But hey...owner knows best.

I'll echo 2Pair's request for a source.

It's hearsay, but Russo's indicated that it was mostly worries about Hextall's personality being too close to Fenton's that made Leipold veer away from him as a candidate. He'd just fired Fenton for tanking front office morale, so it makes sense that he'd avoid bringing in a guy that had similar rumors (reliable or not) following him out of Philadelphia. It also makes sense that he'd go with a guy like Guerin that has a reputation for being the polar opposite of that.