Proposal: MIN / NYR

[Odie Cleghorn]

#1oa we add a little.
Just as rediculous as ranger fans with 9oa ask.

You are being riidiculous. Rangers have some possibilities worth the 9th overall. Kravtsov is far better than anything you will get at 9th and he may be able to play centre.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

JEE and Bjugstad suck.

So does Johannson. Sadly Strome might be an upgrade.

 

[Stuzchuk]

just remove the 2nd and its a fair deal in my opinion

 

[AKL]

And you aren't getting that in this draft with the 9th pick. They will be long gone by then. A 1st line wing will be the most likely choice. The only way to get a 1c with the 9th pick is to package it in a trade.

No

You are being riidiculous. Rangers have some possibilities worth the 9th overall.

No

Kravtsov is far better than anything you will get at 9th and he may be able to play centre.

Definitely no

 

[bernmeister]

With one last view, all this overreach for 9OA should cease.
Just one ?...

Let's say NYR deal
22OA + Buch + 2020 4th + 2021 OTT 4th
for
11OA from Preds

then 11OA + Strome for 9OA?

if MIN does not go for that to move back only 2 slots, let's just respect that they have, FINAL ANSWER, concluded they want to use 9OA and let that go and see who, MIN or otherwise, has our best deal for Strome?

 

[Chayos]

With one last view, all this overreach for 9OA should cease.
Just one ?...

Let's say NYR deal
22OA + Buch + 2020 4th + 2021 OTT 4th
for
11OA from Preds

then 11OA + Strome for 9OA?

if MIN does not go for that to move back only 2 slots, let's just respect that they have, FINAL ANSWER, concluded they want to use 9OA and let that go and see who, MIN or otherwise, has our best deal for Strome?

I think the Preds pass pretty easily. I think you might be overvaluing Buch in the post Covid world.

 

[Digitalbooya]

You are being riidiculous. Rangers have some possibilities worth the 9th overall. Kravtsov is far better than anything you will get at 9th and he may be able to play centre.

No thanks.

 

[Bazeek]

With one last view, all this overreach for 9OA should cease.
Just one ?...

Let's say NYR deal
22OA + Buch + 2020 4th + 2021 OTT 4th
for
11OA from Preds

then 11OA + Strome for 9OA?

if MIN does not go for that to move back only 2 slots, let's just respect that they have, FINAL ANSWER, concluded they want to use 9OA and let that go and see who, MIN or otherwise, has our best deal for Strome?

I don't think they'd be interested in Strome at this point. Johansson (heaven help us) is their 2C next year and one of Khovanov/#9/Eriksson-Ek/etc. will take over beyond that. Hanging into that top-10 this year is relatively important.

 

[AKL]

With one last view, all this overreach for 9OA should cease.
Just one ?...

Let's say NYR deal
22OA + Buch + 2020 4th + 2021 OTT 4th
for
11OA from Preds

then 11OA + Strome for 9OA?

if MIN does not go for that to move back only 2 slots, let's just respect that they have, FINAL ANSWER, concluded they want to use 9OA and let that go and see who, MIN or otherwise, has our best deal for Strome?

That's not an unreasonable scenario, but that's a draft day trade depending on who is available when we're on the clock.

That said, I can't really see a scenario where I would want to move down from 9. I'd rather just have our choice of what's left at 9 versus moving down 2 spots to pick up Strome as well.

Like Bazeek has said, for better or worse, Johansson has made Strome unnecessary for us.

 

[bernmeister]

I think the Preds pass pretty easily. I think you might be overvaluing Buch in the post Covid world.

This is a real thing to the extent some outlet on Yardbarker said so a month ish ago, except they did not have the 4ths. I felt it was light as is, so I threw them in as sweeteners.
Just to be clear, I did not say this was a slam dunk done deal.
I said it was real as to having been a topic of discussion, reportedly.

I don't think they'd be interested in Strome at this point. Johansson (heaven help us) is their 2C next year and one of Khovanov/#9/Eriksson-Ek/etc. will take over beyond that. Hanging into that top-10 this year is relatively important.

That's not an unreasonable scenario, but that's a draft day trade depending on who is available when we're on the clock.

That said, I can't really see a scenario where I would want to move down from 9. I'd rather just have our choice of what's left at 9 versus moving down 2 spots to pick up Strome as well.

Like Bazeek has said, for better or worse, Johansson has made Strome unnecessary for us.

Thank you both for the constructive feedback.
With the illumination from this perspective, unless there is something completely different someone wants to suggest to see if it moves the needle for MIN, I think we should abandon hope of 9OA to NY.

As for Strome we should keep the market open and see what turns up, even if that is less and less likely to Wild.

The consensus remains 2nd +, but I believe there is a team that will offer next yrs 2nd and two 2020 3rds, but that is another topic for another thread as to if that is the top offer to date.

 

[charliemurphy]

#1oa we add a little.
Just as rediculous as ranger fans with 9oa ask.

You feeling alright Karen?

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

But Strome and ADA are really good. You need them because...
Tiring to read this crap again and again.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Forget Greenway and the 2nd.
How much for 90A?

Nothing the NYR would want to give up...

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Minnesota is looking for #1C. It's not Strome, not Chytil and not Andersson. Make your own conclusions.

#1C don't traded. They don't often become available on the FA market.

 

[HotDish]

#1C don't traded. They don't often become available on the FA market.

Well normally they don’t but don’t tell that to ROR or Seguin.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Well normally they don’t but don’t tell that to ROR or Seguin.

Neither was a #1C when they were traded. Same thing with Zibanejad.

 

[Mikachu93]

But Strome and ADA are really good. You need them because...
Tiring to read this crap again and again.

Same way we were all tired of hearing about how much everyone needed Kapanen and Kadri?

 

[rynryn]

wild fans give up on newish guys way too easily. I'd rather just stick with Greenway.

 

[TBF1972]

#1C don't traded. They don't often become available on the FA market.

we don't disagree. but short of zib i don't think minnesota would move their pick.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

we don't disagree. but short of zib i don't think minnesota would move their pick.

I'm not suggesting they would or should.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Same way we were all tired of hearing about how much everyone needed Kapanen and Kadri?

My avatar is a bra, think about that for just a few seconds. Help, Merlin!

 

[HotDish]

wild fans give up on newish guys way too easily. I'd rather just stick with Greenway.

I think the larger issue is the Wild tend to move new guys' roles around too much. I think that always hurts their development. A player could be playing wing for 5 games and then moved to center only to be moved back to wing after 3 games. Let them settle in a role for a bit longer.

 

[Spurgeon]

I think the larger issue is the Wild tend to move new guys' roles around too much. I think that always hurts their development. A player could be playing wing for 5 games and then moved to center only to be moved back to wing after 3 games. Let them settle in a role for a bit longer.

Also, to a lesser extent, flipping what wing they're playing on. Feel like we've had this issue for a few years now where we have to play LWs at RW. Role-wise it's the same position, but I think it really has an impact on how comfortable they are in the offensive zone.

 

[57special]

It's not that big a deal to switch wings. Bigger deal to go from C to W. Some guys can do it, some can't.

 

[Nharris31]

One of these players has better underlying numbers than other one but do you know which player it is?