Speculation: Mikko Rantanen Mega Thread

[BusQuets]

Faulk got traded. Expecting Rantanen to get signed soon.

 

[Goulet17]

Faulk got traded. Expecting Rantanen to get signed soon.

Because the Faulk trade was the big holdup?

 

[LD29]

This will be an ugly contract. He isn't half the player MacKinnon is and will probably earn almost two times more.

 

[Tweaky]

Is landeskog and Barrie now just as worthy of mention in his recent rise? Mackinnon found another level playing with Mikko but it definitely doesn't just disappear if he isn't there. Foolish to think that.

He was playing with Landy and TBoobs for years and it never really clicked until he had Mikko to gel with. And Barrie is gone. If Rants holds out, that means one of the three guys he produced so well with remains. Now I do not think his production will drop off a cliff. But if Rantanen is not there for him to either play with, or draw some defensive pressure, then his numbers will drop some. Not to the 60s, obviously. But I could see it possibly drop to under PPG. And I do not think Rants could be PPG without a stud center either....they need each other.

Yeah really he was out of this world in the playoffs.

So out of this world, he was oustscored by Rantanen, despite having more power play points (Rants had 7 of 14 as PPP, MacK was 8 of 13).

And I am not rying to diminish MacK at all....he is by far my favorite player active right now. But the way people have turned on Rantanen due to Sakic's determination to get the cheapest deal possible has forced me to defend the Av's second best player since Sakic himself retired.

 

[Avaholic29]

He was playing with Landy and TBoobs for years and it never really clicked until he had Mikko to gel with. And Barrie is gone. If Rants holds out, that means one of the three guys he produced so well with remains. Now I do not think his production will drop off a cliff. But if Rantanen is not there for him to either play with, or draw some defensive pressure, then his numbers will drop some. Not to the 60s, obviously. But I could see it possibly drop to under PPG. And I do not think Rants could be PPG without a stud center either....they need each other.



So out of this world, he was oustscored by Rantanen, despite having more power play points (Rants had 7 of 14 as PPP, MacK was 8 of 13).

And I am not rying to diminish MacK at all....he is by far my favorite player active right now. But the way people have turned on Rantanen due to Sakic's determination to get the cheapest deal possible has forced me to defend the Av's second best player since Sakic himself retired.

He was how old? Because he didn't score 80+ at 19, 20, 21? I thought this was alot more common sense. Guess people are quick to forget what Nate looked like in the playoffs lol. Top 3 player in the league, he's capable of putting up the same numbers without rantanen, it would just be more work on him.

 

[Danvalanche]

At this point they should just spend the extra and get it him signed. They are set to be contenders for the next 3 -4 years. I think the extra 500 to a million a year is worth it to be able to bring the cup back. Sure Sakic gives a bit but he’s a franchise player and you don’t go cheap on franchise players.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

This will be an ugly contract. He isn't half the player MacKinnon is and will probably earn almost two times more.

LOL ok. MacKinnon has arguably the best/worst contract in the league. Josi is the only other maybe. Rantanen isn't Mac, but he isn't far off either. Hes a superstar in his own right.

 

[BB88]

LOL ok. MacKinnon has arguably the best/worst contract in the league. Josi is the only other maybe. Rantanen isn't Mac, but he isn't far off either. Hes a superstar in his own right.

With a superior CV at the time of signing, and add that this is going to be year 4 on Mack contract.

Mack contract means nothing with Mikko.

 

[LOFIN]

This will be an ugly contract. He isn't half the player MacKinnon is and will probably earn almost two times more.

When MacK signed that contract he wasn't half the player Mikko currently is.

 

[ToDavid]

This will be an ugly contract. He isn't half the player MacKinnon is and will probably earn almost two times more.

Mackinnon’s contract could not be less relevant. So silly.

 

[Goulet17]

With Tkachuk's imminent signing (based on media reports), it leaves only three prominent unsigned RFAs, with two of them represented by the same agent (Liut).

 

[f1nn]

This will be an ugly contract. He isn't half the player MacKinnon is and will probably earn almost two times more.

I'd say this is a pretty ugly post

 

[avsfan9]

MacKinnon was coming off two 50 point seasons when he signed. Rants coming off two 85 point seasons. That’s a big difference plus Mack signed when league cap was significantly less

 

[Muffin]

I don't see a bridge deal for Rantenen. Unlike those other teams Colorado actually has the cap space now for a long term deal.

 

[Mac Attack]

So is it just going to come down to the Mike Luit boys?

 

[Patagonia]

Mack signed his deal after a few down years. He was still offered the 2nd highest, but only slightly less than Monahan (superior 3 years) from his draft year. So in comparison, Sakic overpaid for the potential that Mack could breakout.

Rants comparable, except Marner would be in the $8.5M-$9.5M range which is the rumoured salary offered. Giving him the same as Marner would only create problems in the future to extend their other players.

 

[Nihiliste]

If he doesn’t want 10x8 it makes me worry about the future, because it’ll be much harder to sign him as a UFA after a bridge

 

[KPower]

3X7.75

$10 million in year 3

 

[42]

Mack signed his deal after a few down years. He was still offered the 2nd highest, but only slightly less than Monahan (superior 3 years) from his draft year. So in comparison, Sakic overpaid for the potential that Mack could breakout.

Rants comparable, except Marner would be in the $8.5M-$9.5M range which is the rumoured salary offered. Giving him the same as Marner would only create problems in the future to extend their other players.

Exactly. There is only one Dubas in the league. Rantanen will get less than 9 million AAV on a 6-year deal.

 

[Spilot23]

3X7.75

$10 million in year 3

3 years is something you want to avoid considering Mackinnon will be up for a new contract in 3 years.

Edit : Was wrong though see post below.

 

[Mighty Makar]

3 years is something you want to avoid considering Mackinnon will be UFA in 3 years.

4 years for MacKinnon.

 

[Spilot23]

4 years for MacKinnon.

Yikes my bad. I guess my counting from capfriendly was wrong. I will edit my post

 

[Foxtail]

3 years is something you want to avoid considering Mackinnon will be up for a new contract in 3 years.

Edit : Was wrong though see post below.

Not totally wrong he can re-negotiate in 3 though

 

[Patagonia]

Exactly. There is only one Dubas in the league. Rantanen will get less than 9 million AAV on a 6-year deal.

I believed they were very close at the rumoured amount, but wanted to wait for the stupidity of the Leafs. The holdout is for Marner money, I expect him to be sitting for sometime or traded.

Interestingly, the Leafs with contract holdout Nylander opened a tremendous opportunity for fringe prospect Kapanen. No only did he fill the opening, but played extremely well with better defence. Nylander has been dropped to the 3rd line and struggled as a 3C and/or RW.

AVs will plenty of time to work on various RW opportunities. If they find a replacement, I wouldn't be surprised if Rants is traded.

 

[Spilot23]

I believed they were very close at the rumoured amount, but wanted to wait for the stupidity of the Leafs. The holdout is for Marner money, I expect him to be sitting for sometime or traded.

Interestingly, the Leafs with contract holdout Nylander opened a tremendous opportunity for fringe prospect Kapanen. No only did he fill the opening, but played extremely well with better defence. Nylander has been dropped to the 3rd line and struggled as a 3C and/or RW.

AVs will plenty of time to work on various RW opportunities. If they find a replacement, I wouldn't be surprised if Rants is traded.

Pretty sure we already have our replacement with Burakovsky or Nichushkin. Sakic had planned that all along