Player Discussion: Mikhail Sergachev

[TeslaCoilFan]

you got to see more of koekkoek he might be our best skater that is what hes best at and its impressive

Yeah, I haven't seen enough of Koekkoek (or paid attention to him as much when he was playing with us, lol) to really compare. I'll definitely be paying more attention this season!

But I stand by my opinion that Sergachev is a MUCH better skater than Dotchin.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

Yeah, I haven't seen enough of Koekkoek (or paid attention to him as much when he was playing with us, lol) to really compare. I'll definitely be paying more attention this season!

But I stand by my opinion that Sergachev is a MUCH better skater than Dotchin.

as long as dotchin can play with hedman we got a win

as things stand seems girardi might be headed to carle usage lol press box if is as bad as people think so we will need serge or cernak and koekkoek to step up for sure lol

 

[Todd1a]

as long as dotchin can play with hedman we got a win

as things stand seems girardi might be headed to carle usage lol press box if is as bad as people think so we will need serge or cernak and koekkoek to step up for sure lol

Funny you said to me sergachev was going back to juniors for sure

 

[Cmac66]

Cernak looks quality, I wouldn't be surprised to see him maybe breaking into the squad if he has another good camp.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Cernak looks quality, I wouldn't be surprised to see him maybe breaking into the squad if he has another good camp.

He's never been to camp with us so Cooper has never seen what he can do. Even if he has a good camp we have far too many other RD ahead of him right now unless he just completely kills it. Sustr is signed for just 1 year, I assume Cernak spends it all in Syracuse then takes his spot next year.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

Funny you said to me sergachev was going back to juniors for sure

todd find something better to do lol

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Laug h

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Cernak reminds me of Coburn for some reason

 

[Todd1a]

So with girardi here now will sergachev make the NHL roster? Or back to juniors?

 

[Rschmitz]

So with girardi here now will sergachev make the NHL roster? Or back to juniors?

Despite Sergachev being able to play the right side, I don't think Girardi is his competition, but Slater. That Koekkoek contract says it all. At 800k and having to pass through waivers, Koekkoek has to beat Sergachev in camp or will likely get picked up by Vegas.

If Sergachev loses, he goes back to juniors, we gain a second round pick and maintain a year of control on him while he adds ~10 pounds of muscle and improves on his offensive production. His D+1 season was very meh outside the Memorial Cup playoffs.

We all need to be pulling for Koekkoek right now to beat out Sergachev in camp and help justify his draft selection. He can still be a major contributor for this team.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

Cernak reminds me of Coburn for some reason

His skating could be a touch better than coburn. But hard to say without seeing them on the same rink.

 

[Werewolf]

Sergachev should be back in Juniors. After another year in the CHL and another in Syracuse should put him in good place to replace Coburn full-time as his contract runs out. After Coburns departure, that should give us two years of Koekkoek as a 3/4 and Sergachev can come up full time as a #5.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Sergachev should be back in Juniors. After another year in the CHL and another in Syracuse should put him in good place to replace Coburn full-time as his contract runs out. After Coburns departure, that should give us two years of Koekkoek as a 3/4 and Sergachev can come up full time as a #5.

But he's already good enough to be our #5.

 

[HoseEmDown]

But he's already good enough to be our #5.

We already have 6 D on one way deals with Dotchin expected to be the 7th. Someone is going to be paid good to sit, Sergachev will make that two. Just because he's better doesn't mean it makes sense for him to be in the lineup. If he was our 2nd or 3rd best D you play him, but 5th isn't worth it because it's marginally better than what's behind him right now.

Sustr and Koekkoek are on one year deals with Dotchin possibly being on the same. I can't see all three playing well enough to cement a spot for the following year, Sergachev will take one of those spots. Cernak has had a great development camp but need to see him in a real camp and preseason. Most likely he spends all year in Syracuse then takes Sustr spot if he earns it or for sure Girardi, Coburn or Stralman when their deals end in two years. Thomas is still ahead of him so he could be up next year along with Masin who has the edge on the left if Sergachev is in junior.

 

[These Are The Days]

Sergachev should be back in Juniors. After another year in the CHL and another in Syracuse should put him in good place to replace Coburn full-time as his contract runs out. After Coburns departure, that should give us two years of Koekkoek as a 3/4 and Sergachev can come up full time as a #5.

I'd agree with you if I didn't think Seragachev was not already better than Sustr, NHL ready right now and that Juniors and the AHL would not be a complete and total waste of time. We need to stop holding ourselves back let go of this "We put them in juniors/AHL because they are young and not ready" approach and let the best players make the team regardless of their age or their current level of development.

The only thing saving this team is gonna be finding the next Brayden Point.

 

[Sky04]

Despite Sergachev being able to play the right side, I don't think Girardi is his competition, but Slater. That Koekkoek contract says it all. At 800k and having to pass through waivers, Koekkoek has to beat Sergachev in camp or will likely get picked up by Vegas.

If Sergachev loses, he goes back to juniors, we gain a second round pick and maintain a year of control on him while he adds ~10 pounds of muscle and improves on his offensive production. His D+1 season was very meh outside the Memorial Cup playoffs.

We all need to be pulling for Koekkoek right now to beat out Sergachev in camp and help justify his draft selection. He can still be a major contributor for this team.

100%, despite Sergachev being the shiny new toy we NEED Koekkoek to develop into a top-4 defender like he was poised to, you cannot blow another top pick like that. I don't think anyone doubts Sergachev will be an impact eventually but we can afford to wait on him for at least 1 more year. Koekkoek is in a do or die year on this team, at this point it's really all up to him.

 

[The Macho King]

100%, despite Sergachev being the shiny new toy we NEED Koekkoek to develop into a top-4 defender like he was poised to, you cannot blow another top pick like that. I don't think anyone doubts Sergachev will be an impact eventually but we can afford to wait on him for at least 1 more year. Koekkoek is in a do or die year on this team, at this point it's really all up to him.

I don't think we "need" it - If Serge is better, he should get the spot, waivers be damned. Tie goes to Koekkoek though.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I hope Sergachev and Koekkoek impress enough to get Sustr to sit into the press box. We really can use their skill set on the back end.

 

[DFC]

I hope Sergachev and Koekkoek impress enough to get Sustr to sit into the press box. We really can use their skill set on the back end.

I can't see us keeping both of them on the main roster, because it would force us to sit Girardi as well, given the R/L thing:

Hedman - Dotchin
Koekkoek - Stralman
Sergachev - Coburn

I just don't think it's realistic that we'll have both Girardi and Sustr in the pressbox. Maybe if we run 11-7 most nights.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Habs fan here in peace.

Question about Drouin in regards to his position as a LW/C/RW. Where can he, will he, and did he play?

Thanks!

 

[DFC]

Habs fan here in peace.

Question about Drouin in regards to his position as a LW/C/RW. Where can he, will he, and did he play?

Thanks!

Either wing. He morphed more and more into a RW by the end.

QBs the PP. Creates space.

Ugh. This trade hurts me in the soul.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Either wing. He morphed more and more into a RW by the end.

QBs the PP. Creates space.

Ugh. This trade hurts me in the soul.

lol thanks for that. We obviously have a hole at C, and now with losing Radulov one has opened up at RW. We are way more loaded at LW (Pacioretty, Lehokonen, Byron, maybe Galchenyuk), so any word on him being able to play C or RW is helpful.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

We already have 6 D on one way deals with Dotchin expected to be the 7th. Someone is going to be paid good to sit, Sergachev will make that two. Just because he's better doesn't mean it makes sense for him to be in the lineup. If he was our 2nd or 3rd best D you play him, but 5th isn't worth it because it's marginally better than what's behind him right now.

Sustr and Koekkoek are on one year deals with Dotchin possibly being on the same. I can't see all three playing well enough to cement a spot for the following year, Sergachev will take one of those spots. Cernak has had a great development camp but need to see him in a real camp and preseason. Most likely he spends all year in Syracuse then takes Sustr spot if he earns it or for sure Girardi, Coburn or Stralman when their deals end in two years. Thomas is still ahead of him so he could be up next year along with Masin who has the edge on the left if Sergachev is in junior.

But he could develop really nice on a pair with Stralman

Hedman-Dotchin
Sergachev-Stralman
Coburn-KK/Sustr/G

Hopefully KK

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Cmon guys it's a good trade

Stud W for stud D

 

[DFC]

lol thanks for that. We obviously have a hole at C, and now with losing Radulov one has opened up at RW. We are way more loaded at LW (Pacioretty, Lehokonen, Byron, maybe Galchenyuk), so any word on him being able to play C or RW is helpful.

When he was in junior, Yzerman stated he believed Drouin should be a C, so he spent his last year of junior playing C. We experimented with it briefly in the A, but then abandoned it. He's played either wing since.

There will be nights where he's the single reason you watch. Under the MTL spotlight, he's going to be recognized as one of the most, if not the most, exciting players in the league. I can't even remember all the times he did something where my reaction was, "I have never seen that done in the NHL before."

I can't believe we traded him inside the division. I can only imagine what kind of chip he's going to have on his shoulder in MTL-TB games. It's gonna get... ... ...Ugly.