Player Discussion Mike Reilly

[Adam Michaels]

I'm starting to think Julien is a bad coach. Sending Mete down and keeping Kulak while playing Schlemko, Benn and Ouellet over Mete and Reilly.

I feel the Schlemko, Benn, Ouellet trio should be called the turn over specialists.

Kulak's looked good since being called up. We'll see how long that lasts. But he's been a good addition so far.

As for Mete, sending him to the AHL has nothing to do with choosing Schlemko, Benn, Ouellet over him. In fact, it actually shows they choose Mete over them because by sending him down, they're giving him an opportunity to play 20+ minutes with PP time and develop. It tells me that they have their eye on the future and they're looking to ensure Mete will be ready when he gets back.

As for Reilly, I don't know why he was scratched for a few consecutive games. I read somewhere that he doesn't seem to grasp what the coaches are asking him to work on at practice. I don't know how much truth there is to that. However, he looks like he's coming back in the line-up against the Rangers and already that's an improvement, even if he's on the third pair. I like that Kulak is with Weber simply because I think he's a better fit than Schlemko. But Reilly getting into the line-up could be the start of him working his way to playing with Weber.

 

[Bacchus1]

As for Reilly, I don't know why he was scratched for a few consecutive games. I read somewhere that he doesn't seem to grasp what the coaches are asking him to work on at practice. I don't know how much truth there is to that. However, he looks like he's coming back in the line-up against the Rangers and already that's an improvement, even if he's on the third pair. I like that Kulak is with Weber simply because I think he's a better fit than Schlemko. But Reilly getting into the line-up could be the start of him working his way to playing with Weber.

I asked the guy who posted that for a source, and he had none. So, up until now it is hearsay/gossip.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I asked the guy who posted that for a source, and he had none. So, up until now it is hearsay/gossip.

This is where I read it: CH: le retour du balancier | Mathias Brunet | Mathias Brunet

An article by Mathias Brunet who writes that from what he hears, Reilly isn't exactly receptive of the coaches' directives.

I specified that I don't know how much truth there is to that but Mathias Brunet is one of the reporters on the beat I trust when he writes something. It doesn't mean I always believe what he says/writes. But he's not someone from those blog sites who makes me question the legitimatecy.

 

[Bacchus1]

This is where I read it: CH: le retour du balancier | Mathias Brunet | Mathias Brunet

An article by Mathias Brunet who writes that from what he hears, Reilly isn't exactly receptive of the coaches' directives.

I specified that I don't know how much truth there is to that but Mathias Brunet is one of the reporters on the beat I trust when he writes something. It doesn't mean I always believe what he says/writes. But he's not someone from those blog sites who makes me question the legitimatecy.

Thanks for the link. I trust Brunet’s gossip, too.

 

[Runner77]

I really don't share the harsh criticism of Reilly. ...

Would be nice to know what exactly is causing Reilly to be benched. No one knows for sure, hence random speculation going several ways.

 

[Runner77]

This is where I read it: CH: le retour du balancier | Mathias Brunet | Mathias Brunet

An article by Mathias Brunet who writes that from what he hears, Reilly isn't exactly receptive of the coaches' directives.

I specified that I don't know how much truth there is to that but Mathias Brunet is one of the reporters on the beat I trust when he writes something. It doesn't mean I always believe what he says/writes. But he's not someone from those blog sites who makes me question the legitimatecy.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Brunet says this:

On chuchote que le jeune homme n'est pas très réceptif aux enseignements de ses entraîneurs et on veut le mettre au pas.

By using "on chuchote" as a precursor to his statement, he's reporting a rumor. It's hearsay, "someone is suggesting to him that" -- he doesn't really have direct confirmation from someone who is in a position to provide factual info. I too am tempted to trust Brunet, but based on the way he's delivering the info, it's clear that he can't commit as to its veracity. Sounds like "this is the best I could get for now" type of thing. "On chuchote" doesn't make for very factual reporting.

 

[THE HOFF]

This is where I read it: CH: le retour du balancier | Mathias Brunet | Mathias Brunet

An article by Mathias Brunet who writes that from what he hears, Reilly isn't exactly receptive of the coaches' directives.

I specified that I don't know how much truth there is to that but Mathias Brunet is one of the reporters on the beat I trust when he writes something. It doesn't mean I always believe what he says/writes. But he's not someone from those blog sites who makes me question the legitimatecy.

while I don't doubt specifically his rumours on reilly, I do think the article is utter garbage. You can feel the pleasure he has. It stinks the ''I told you so''.

''on chuchote'' ? that's just how he adapted his approach since he broke hossa's gloves saga...

 

[yianik]

Weber is the defensive wall with the cannon shot. He misses the mobility and si while a top D, he should be complimented.

We do not have a legit no.2D.

The best compliment D we have for Weber is Reilly. Reilly has his weaknesses but these are areas of strength for Weber.

My only guess is CJ is annoyed with Reilly making defensive errors. Oh yeah, well all our LHD do that.

Julien needs to F off. And F off right now. If he keeps messing around I fear this will help push MB into trading for yet another D., and for short term help. Waste of assets.

Julien can be such a stubborn jackass.

 

[admiralcadillac]

I'm starting to think Julien is a bad coach. Sending Mete down and keeping Kulak while playing Schlemko, Benn and Ouellet over Mete and Reilly.

I feel the Schlemko, Benn, Ouellet trio should be called the turn over specialists.

I don't see how those choices would make him a bad coach. He's sending a struggling 20 year old down to find his game and Reilly is not playing because he's apprently not very receptive to what the coaching staff has been saying.

Weber is the defensive wall with the cannon shot. He misses the mobility and si while a top D, he should be complimented.

We do not have a legit no.2D.

The best compliment D we have for Weber is Reilly. Reilly has his weaknesses but these are areas of strength for Weber.

My only guess is CJ is annoyed with Reilly making defensive errors. Oh yeah, well all our LHD do that.

Julien needs to F off. And F off right now. If he keeps messing around I fear this will help push MB into trading for yet another D., and for short term help. Waste of assets.

Julien can be such a stubborn jackass.

You're like the tenth person to come up with a made up scenario, state it as fact, then attack the coach for making decisions based off of your invented criteria.

Richardson, not Julien, apparently hasn't been liking Reilly's attitude and disinterest in listening to the coaching staff. You clearly haven't done research on why Reilly isn't playing which is never a good look after a post as scathing as yours.

 

[Runner77]

This makes sense to me and the following quote from CJ corroborates that theory...

"Reilly is expected to be a healthy scratch Tuesday night against Carolina, Stu Cowan of the Montreal Gazette reports.
Reilly practiced on the fourth defensive pairing Monday after being a healthy scratch the previous two games. "He's got to be better defending," coach Claude Julien said. "He's got to be better in his decision-making. He can't keep turning pucks over with sloppy plays. He knows that. So that's where we need consistency."
"
Source: Canadiens' Mike Reilly: Julien lays down law

I know they wouldn't come out and say his attitude is garbage and that he isn't behaving like a pro but it seems to me CJ doesn't like the risks he takes offensively as he can't recover defensively. It's unfortunate that CJ is coming down hard on him as we are desperate for a mobile guy on the LD...I don't think Claude deserves the benefit of the doubt when he has shown in the past he can mess with certain type of players development. (As in he has a certain mold that he does well with and others not so much...)

This is the clearest public statement that I've seen, that points to what it may be that is causing Julien to sit Reilly.

Now, is there more to it than this? Who knows.

It won't be the first time, however, that a player is being scolded and schooled on account of not executing defensive responsibilities. The question is, Reilly is still a young player and wouldn't he be able to improve on his deficiencies by playing with a Weber? At least Reilly's decision-making in the offensive zone, his skating and shot are all above-average.

I don't see how playing Kulak as a first pairing when he's always been a low pairing type, will help the team right now. They have no one else like Reilly -- it's time to take him out of the dog house and see what he can do with Weber -- assuming this is the only issue that is getting him downgraded by Julien right now.

 

[Perrah]

Seems like the same problems as in Minnesota. See if he buys in here. Thought the quote Reilly had earlier in the year about not being worried about making mistakes and getting benched was funny because it didnt seem like the habs MO.

 

[A55P2]

I'm thinking that we have seen this before with multiple player, including Subban. My guess is that the coaches saw a clear flaw in Reilly's play and took him out to work on that or those flaws. I would hope that they are thinking long term perspective by sitting him down and intend on playing him according to his capabilities later on.

For the moment, we've lost all games where Reilly hasn't played. Not that it would have made a huge difference, but still it clearly didn't work team-wise.

 

[Scintillating10]

Kulak's looked good since being called up. We'll see how long that lasts. But he's been a good addition so far.

As for Mete, sending him to the AHL has nothing to do with choosing Schlemko, Benn, Ouellet over him. In fact, it actually shows they choose Mete over them because by sending him down, they're giving him an opportunity to play 20+ minutes with PP time and develop. It tells me that they have their eye on the future and they're looking to ensure Mete will be ready when he gets back.

As for Reilly, I don't know why he was scratched for a few consecutive games. I read somewhere that he doesn't seem to grasp what the coaches are asking him to work on at practice. I don't know how much truth there is to that. However, he looks like he's coming back in the line-up against the Rangers and already that's an improvement, even if he's on the third pair. I like that Kulak is with Weber simply because I think he's a better fit than Schlemko. But Reilly getting into the line-up could be the start of him working his way to playing with Weber.

Reilly has the skill but sometimes he is not intense. If they can change his intensity be an all-star

 

[57special]

Seems like the same problems as in Minnesota. See if he buys in here. Thought the quote Reilly had earlier in the year about not being worried about making mistakes and getting benched was funny because it didnt seem like the habs MO.

Well, MN had Brodin and Suter ahead of him, then a less talented, but more solid(and very cheap) Seeler on LD, as well as Olofsson, who was a better two way guy. They had a very different situation in MN.

 

[417]

I liked Reilly's game last night -he's much better when he's aggressive/assertive (which is probably something CJ doesn't like).

I find he struggles more when he tries to be too passive.

He lacks end product, so I hope he keeps playing this way as staying aggressive is the only way he'll be able to finish off plays that he starts.

 

[groovejuice]

This is the clearest public statement that I've seen, that points to what it may be that is causing Julien to sit Reilly.

Now, is there more to it than this? Who knows.

It won't be the first time, however, that a player is being scolded and schooled on account of not executing defensive responsibilities. The question is, Reilly is still a young player and wouldn't he be able to improve on his deficiencies by playing with a Weber? At least Reilly's decision-making in the offensive zone, his skating and shot are all above-average.

I don't see how playing Kulak as a first pairing when he's always been a low pairing type, will help the team right now. They have no one else like Reilly -- it's time to take him out of the dog house and see what he can do with Weber -- assuming this is the only issue that is getting him downgraded by Julien right now.

This is perfectly consistent with Julien's coaching philosophy. For the same reason he has the 4th line on the ice late in the 3rd when down 2 goals. He cannot help himself.

 

[malton]

I feel like he has been one of our better dmen. He's showed a lot of promise. His game trailed off a bit after a really good start, but not enough to be benched imo.

 

[DAChampion]

This is perfectly consistent with Julien's coaching philosophy. For the same reason he has the 4th line on the ice late in the 3rd when down 2 goals. He cannot help himself.

Why is it that so many of these dinosaurs fetishize defense?

 

[groovejuice]

Why is it that so many of these dinosaurs fetishize defense?

Simply because it's a dinosaur philosophy, I imagine. Lack of offensive talent in any given player does not guarantee a sharp defensive mind in its stead.

 

[cphabs]

This is the clearest public statement that I've seen, that points to what it may be that is causing Julien to sit Reilly.

Now, is there more to it than this? Who knows.

It won't be the first time, however, that a player is being scolded and schooled on account of not executing defensive responsibilities. The question is, Reilly is still a young player and wouldn't he be able to improve on his deficiencies by playing with a Weber? At least Reilly's decision-making in the offensive zone, his skating and shot are all above-average.

I don't see how playing Kulak as a first pairing when he's always been a low pairing type, will help the team right now. They have no one else like Reilly -- it's time to take him out of the dog house and see what he can do with Weber -- assuming this is the only issue that is getting him downgraded by Julien right now.

More f***ing drama... think this has an effect on the players and prospects?

 

[dinodebino]

I asked the guy who posted that for a source, and he had none. So, up until now it is hearsay/gossip.

Dany Dubé, for one, said it on 98,5fm.

 

[dinodebino]

I did not like his effort level in his zone over the last two games. He switches gear when the puck gets on the offensive side of things, but that's not how NHL hockey is played. I disagree with many of you here. Guy has the tools and the IQ. But he needs needs to be as intense without the puck as he hs with it. Hasn't been the case to me.

 

[yianik]

I don't see how those choices would make him a bad coach. He's sending a struggling 20 year old down to find his game and Reilly is not playing because he's apprently not very receptive to what the coaching staff has been saying.




You're like the tenth person to come up with a made up scenario, state it as fact, then attack the coach for making decisions based off of your invented criteria.

Richardson, not Julien, apparently hasn't been liking Reilly's attitude and disinterest in listening to the coaching staff. You clearly haven't done research on why Reilly isn't playing which is never a good look after a post as scathing as yours.

See Runner post on CJ stating Reilly is not playing well defensively, Reilly and his defensive play, like I said.

My point was simply that almost all our D are defensive liabilities , including lately Reilly, but at least Reilly brings an offensive element others do not. So he best compliments Weber. So why play defensive liabilities with no offense opposed to a defensive liability who can generate transition and some offense ? And CJ is the coach, not Richardson.

Although in hindsight I think I was a bit over the top in the language. But stand by my opinion.

 

[admiralcadillac]

See Runner post on CJ stating Reilly is not playing well defensively, Reilly and his defensive play, like I said.

My point was simply that almost all our D are defensive liabilities , including lately Reilly, but at least Reilly brings an offensive element others do not. So he best compliments Weber. So why play defensive liabilities with no offense opposed to a defensive liability who can generate transition and some offense ? And CJ is the coach, not Richardson.

Although in hindsight I think I was a bit over the top in the language. But stand by my opinion.

I completely agree, I think outside of Petry and Weber he's the most talented D on the team.

 

[Tuggy]

His play has really taken a nosedive. Hopefully he can find his game again because I liked what I saw earlier in the season.